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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jun 18th, 2019, 1:06 pm Thread Starter
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Oil Change question on the 2019 Hyper

Changed the oil and filter myself yesterday.

The 2015 service manual does not even discuss removing the magnetic oil drain plug at all, which I wondered about.

Do the professionals remove all the plugs every oil change?

Followed the basic procedure outlined here.


https://chancemoto.com/2017/04/26/a-...e-oil-changes/

The oil drain plug with the magnet had a bit of metal on it, seemed within normal limits. Reused the old copper washer and used three bond gasket sealant to reinstall.

Cost $79. https://motowheels.com/i-23900139-du...-panigale.html

Used Motul 15-50 oil 3/4 of a gallon to full, and a Hi Flow filter hand tight.

I could not figure out how to get the mesh screen loose. It would not budge so I left it as is.

Does that screen screw in and out or is it just a pull and push thing?

The side and lower plugs around the mesh screen have aluminum washers that can easily fall into the oil pan, so watch out for those. There was no grease at all on those plugs so I reinstalled them as they were despite the 2015 manual calling for grease.
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The mesh filter should be checked every other oil change. It is screwed in - a 12 or 14mm allen.

I'd change the crush washer every time - no need for any sealant. It's probably fine, but keep an eye on it for a while.

I was recently told that the OEM filter has special valving because of how ducs handle oil pressure at idle. I'm also using HiFlo, but will go OEM at the next change.
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The mesh filter should be checked every other oil change. It is screwed in - a 12 or 14mm allen.

I'd change the crush washer every time - no need for any sealant. It's probably fine, but keep an eye on it for a while.

I was recently told that the OEM filter has special valving because of how ducs handle oil pressure at idle. I'm also using HiFlo, but will go OEM at the next change.
Thanks for that info! I will remove and clean the oil screen next change.

Who did you hear from that the ducati filter is different from others?

It would be great if we could see documentation confirming.
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Thanks for that info! I will remove and clean the oil screen next change.

Who did you hear from that the ducati filter is different from others?

It would be great if we could see documentation confirming.
I heard it from a local specialist - we were talking about other things and he looked down and saw the hiflow. He's an honest broker,with no skin in the game as I don't get my repairs done there. Sometimes you just have to trust people who seem both trustworthy and more knowledgeable than ones self.


So next change - OEM.
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Yet, if the Ducati filter actually has critical specs different from other filters that are documented by manufacturers (K&N) to be alternatives, one would think it would void the warranty to use another filter. I don't think it does.
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The mesh filter should be checked every other oil change. It is screwed in - a 12 or 14mm allen.

I'd change the crush washer every time - no need for any sealant. It's probably fine, but keep an eye on it for a while.

I was recently told that the OEM filter has special valving because of how ducs handle oil pressure at idle. I'm also using HiFlo, but will go OEM at the next change.

That sounds like a load of horse poo poo. The OEM filters don't have any special valves in them that every oil filter does not already have. I would love to see the special valving, as I don't buy it.

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That sounds like a load of horse poo poo. The OEM filters don't have any special valves in them that every oil filter does not already have. I would love to see the special valving, as I don't buy it.
I will definitely take your advice over a known ducati specialist. LOL

People can do what the like. It's an extra $6 every 9k miles.
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Yet, if the Ducati filter actually has critical specs different from other filters that are documented by manufacturers (K&N) to be alternatives, one would think it would void the warranty to use another filter. I don't think it does.
Well my bike is well past warranty now, but the guy I spoke with said he definitely looks for stuff like that when a bike in need of repair comes in. He also mentioned that it's oil pressure at idle. I have 33k miles and my engine is fine (knock on wood) but I'll take his advice.

FYI: From what I've heard you can't even properly mount a K&N on the bike anymore.
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Well my bike is well past warranty now, but the guy I spoke with said he definitely looks for stuff like that when a bike in need of repair comes in. He also mentioned that it's oil pressure at idle. I have 33k miles and my engine is fine (knock on wood) but I'll take his advice.

FYI: From what I've heard you can't even properly mount a K&N on the bike anymore.
Interesting. Can you ask that mechanic what the source of his info may be? Really curious to know if there is any documentation about it.

I ordered a Ducati filter which arrived today. It came in a box, no cover on the filter, and no oil on the seal. The Hi Flow has a cap over the filter and oiled seals. Cheaper filter with superior packaging and quality assurance to keep debris out of the filter until installation.

I have a K&N filter on the way as well. If it does not mount properly I will let you know for sure.

I think it is not unreasonable that without documentation skepticism is valid.
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Interesting. Can you ask that mechanic what the source of his info may be? Really curious to know if there is any documentation about it.

I ordered a Ducati filter which arrived today. It came in a box, no cover on the filter, and no oil on the seal. The Hi Flow has a cap over the filter and oiled seals. Cheaper filter with superior packaging and quality assurance to keep debris out of the filter until installation.

I have a K&N filter on the way as well. If it does not mount properly I will let you know for sure.

I think it is not unreasonable that without documentation skepticism is valid.
You're right - it's not unreasonable and everyone can make their choice. I've used hiflo with no apparent issues (though never noticed the oiled seals) - but...
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