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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old May 18th, 2014, 1:55 am Thread Starter
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Air cooled v water cooled

Hi all , Just thought I,d put the cat amongst the pigeons.
After owning a 2007 hyper for a number of years numerous tyres and expense on servicing ,upgrades to nemisis ecu ,remus full system.Tried the lower tooth primary sprocket , got rid of that quick smart.
The bike has done 50k , I have run out of fuel on numerous occasions thanks to relying on poxy fuel light.Zero trip meter now when I fuel up.
To me I dont think I want a water cooled 'new one' .
It might have a bit more horse power but it also is heavier .
A slipper clutch is also something I dont want.
I bought my bike and we have a complete understanding of respect for one another. I abuse it but buy it flowers now and again.
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post #2 of 52 (permalink) Old May 19th, 2014, 12:29 am
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Interesting perspective. I actually never considered the Hyper until it was water cooled. Also, I thought it's lighter by 2lbs.
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post #3 of 52 (permalink) Old May 19th, 2014, 2:08 am
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liquid cooling allows for better tuning and tighter mechanical specs. Also, easier to meet emission regs.

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ive had both air and water cooled Hypers [currently 821 SP] i like the water cooled better , thats my opinion. plenty of people who agree and disagree !!

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Interesting perspective. I actually never considered the Hyper until it was water cooled. Also, I thought it's lighter by 2lbs.
Same here. Again, to each his own, but I much prefer water-cooled engines and slipper clutches; And I probably wouldn't buy a new bike that doesn't have ABS and TC. Most of the bikes I've owned in my life have had none of these things (except the water cooling), but I'll gladly take all those performance and safety goodies now. The only thing missing to me is a steering damper.

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I loved my 1100 evo and put 12K miles on her in a year, but after owning my Hyperstrada, I'd never go back. I remember the day that thought came to me because I was going to keep both.

I do long distance riding and the seating, ABS, traction control, slipper cluth, electronic throttle, hard luggage...

It depends on what riding you're doing, but the bikes are completely different bikes when it comes down to it. Funnily, the main reasons I switched to the Hyperstrada was wanting hard luggage (strapping everything to your bike gets very old) and and even more upright position. Everything else I thought I wouldn't care about.

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Why would you not want a slipper clutch? I can see not adding one, but to specifically not want one?
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post #8 of 52 (permalink) Old May 22nd, 2014, 6:07 am Thread Starter
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I like the brute force of the machine as a no frills animal.
Gear selection into corners no brakes using the engine braking is it for me.
Thats why i like it the way it is.
Its a raw bones bike without electronic things that tells you how to ride.

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I like the brute force of the machine as a no frills animal.
Gear selection into corners no brakes using the engine braking is it for me.
Thats why i like it the way it is.
Its a raw bones bike without electronic things that tells you how to ride.
This is quite possibly the most ignorant complaint about the new bike used on this forum. The new bike has never told me how to ride. That's also not how traction control works. Which I've said before, can be disabled totally.

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Hmmm ^ to each there own I enjoy the simplicity of a proven design which I can work on myself with out worry, wait till someone comes out with cams for the 821. It'll cost twice as much to have installed . For my country road riding there it no substitute for torque. Not only that but you can't show your clutch what kind of Ducati is that ( I just said that to be an ass ) haha.

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