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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old Jun 1st, 2019, 4:38 pm
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This is really sad - we have to go all through this so we can have corn based adds to real gas!
I take a 5 gal can everywhere I go and use an iPhone app to find rec fuel. Or, run across the border to Canada where they have real gas.
I'll do anything I can to use it in any machine I have including my John Deere LX176, trimmer and blower.
My test has been to see how long it will be before they won't even start nor run on what's available at the corner station. In addition, the fuel hoses etc. for these type of older units don't stand up at all.
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Well I had something nice happen to me today, a friend gave me a 55 gallon drum of fresh 100 octane low lead- non ethanol avgas --Damn my bikes are going to be really happy for a while lol. If in the U.S. go to I think the site is Pure Gas .com or something like that and you can find real fuel near you, The other option is any marina or airport has it--you cant run ethanol in aircraft or boats --yes the avgas is more expensive But--it will pay for itself not needing the repair that ethanol causes.

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I have used the old "red" Stabil for years and not had any issues but switched to Startron last fall. I haven't noticed any differences storing the bikes, mowers, and extra saw gas between the two but I also make a ritual end of the season winterizing my crap because I am sick of effing with small carburetors every spring because of crap gas. We can get clear gas in limited areas here in Oregon but it is so expensive and few and far between it's easier to just treat the fuel with an additive. Then again I have a steel tank so I don't have to worry about swelling.

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Only pure gas for me. I keep extra at home and fill before I ride. If Iím out and around a pure gas station I fill the bike but for the most part I fill from home tanks.
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I use pump 87 if do not have a built motor(higher if modified), I never care if it has ethanol. I maintain my bikes no more of less than most. I have no ethanol problems. I have learned how to deal with ethanol in that I do not store it long term and expect it to be good bbut no different than the fuel back in the 80's that caused Yamaha to come up with a carb cleaner because it went bad so frequently. What is old is new once again.

Other than that I just know that there will be a little less power than most will not notice and a bit less fuel economy which was never a factor in buying a Ducati that I know of. Yes if you were jetted for pre ethanol fuel you MAY need to re-jet, unless you check (which most wont) you would usually not know.

I don't race because I am (slow) and too lazy to care to run a special fuel you have to buy after traveling out of my way. Simply learn how to store the fuel we have and as always make sure the bike is jetted properly. Then ride your bike anywhere you want with no worries.
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The internet sez Startron is available at Lowes now,...

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My anecdotal experience is pretty meaningless, scientifically, but I always put a splash of Seafoam in my tank. I have a source for non-ethanol gas that is literally the closest station to my house, so I mostly run the good stuff and I keep non-ethanol in it for longer term storage.
I can say, though, that I've neglected my carbs a bit and I think it runs and starts better this year compared to last year, so I have no reason to do anything different.

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Originally Posted by bigbadbass2 View Post
Note test being 4-5 years old, though not stipulated, they no doubt used the old, original red Stabil. The newer blend 360 much more potent and effective, IMHO and experience.
On the topic of discolored StaBil, and their Marine 360, this is quoted directly from the StaBil Marine 360 FAQ webpage ....


"My bottle has turned a brown color - is it still ok to use?

Yes, it is normal for the dye of the liquid to change color and this is no indication of the productís efficiency."



LINK TO PAGE = https://www.goldeagle.com/product/sta-bil-360-marine/

That is an FAQ page, so scroll down to the question "My bottle has turned a brown color - is it still ok to use?"

Looks like good stuff (the 360 Marine). It's come highly recommended to me from a trusted source.




However, having personally seen hundreds of ~FAILS~ with the RED StaBil I cannot recommend the red stuffs use with a clear conscience. The new green colored Marine 360 seems to be a much better additive.





On another note, has anyone used any of the Lucas fuel products?




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I wasnít pleased with the old Stabil and Amal carbs on Triumphs. I use SeaFoam because it seems to work and is available everywhere. I use the new Stabil in the winter with SeaFoam in my mowers etc. I drain the bikes after running SeaFoam through the carbs or injection.

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It's not just the crappy gas that turns to shit in two weeks, it's also all the stuff that the gas affects. The ethanol has a deleterious affect on everything it touches. A case in point is my rarely ridden '94 Bimota DB2. Essentially a 900ss with a fancy frame and bodywork, I was having to clean the pilots about every Thursday, which is not an easy job since the single pc front fairing must be removed to get to them. The jets and tank were clean, but it still plugged up.

Long story short, I finally replaced all the fuel lines, the filter (OK why I didn't do this before is a mystery) and had a buddy ultrasonically clean the carbs - then new jets etc. The bike now runs fine and for more than a week - and only no E gas going forward. In retrospect, I think it was disintegrating fuel lines and the old filter.

May my laziness and stupidity be a lesson here.....

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