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post #21 of 157 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 2009, 11:52 am Thread Starter
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Nathan, well said! That's why a new SS could be a success for Ducati - there is a real market need out there for a machine like this.
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post #22 of 157 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 2009, 12:05 pm
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How about a new sport classic based on the style of the mid 90's supersports with upgraded suspension and the 1100 DS motor?
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post #23 of 157 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 2009, 12:10 pm
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If it's within 20lbs and 10hp of an 848, and is pretty sporty in focus/ergos, why not just get an 848 unless it was far more cost effective?
I've got an SS and a 999R.

I tested an 848 for a couple hours, afterall it's close to the weight of my SS, and close to the power of my 999R (at least on paper).

OK, so my SS has been on a diet, having lost 40 lbs. or so, but the 848 was much heavier, in fact it felt no different than my 999R. And the power wasn't even close to the 999R (which is stock).

So, I have an SS because it is lighter and smaller than my 999R, and therefore better and easier to ride on my local roads. However, I find the 999R the more comfortable of the two for long days in the Alps and Apennines.

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How about a new sport classic based on the style of the 750 F1 with upgraded suspension and the 1100 DS motor?
Fixed it for ya.

Seriously though, I could swear I saw pictures of just such a concept and heard whispers of one from someone who might know... this was a couple years back though so obviously it never came to be.

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New (old!) SS

Hi all, why the shotgun approach here on a "new" SS? It is so simple it is insane. I have many Ducks, my favorite for all around anything, the go to tool is my 1994sscr. 48,287 miles of trouble free joy on the clock. It is perfect (almost) as it sits. If you could make me a clone of this machine with a real 90-100 rwhp output from the mill it would be perfect. Maybe up the output of the electrics a tad, but for all intents and purposes that is it. Just build the mid 90s model line as it was made and update the engine a tad! People talk about better suspension, this that and everything, but why??? Who needs/uses "better" components on said machine? I don't race my ss, it is a fun tool to just get on and ride. If you "need" all these updates then buy a Superbike and be done with it! I know MANY people that would buy a mid 90s 900ss in a heartbeat if it was offered as it was made in the mid 90s again.
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Hi all, why the shotgun approach here on a "new" SS? It is so simple it is insane. I have many Ducks, my favorite for all around anything, the go to tool is my 1994sscr. 48,287 miles of trouble free joy on the clock. It is perfect (almost) as it sits. If you could make me a clone of this machine with a real 90-100 rwhp output from the mill it would be perfect. Maybe up the output of the electrics a tad, but for all intents and purposes that is it. Just build the mid 90s model line as it was made and update the engine a tad! People talk about better suspension, this that and everything, but why??? Who needs/uses "better" components on said machine? I don't race my ss, it is a fun tool to just get on and ride. If you "need" all these updates then buy a Superbike and be done with it! I know MANY people that would buy a mid 90s 900ss in a heartbeat if it was offered as it was made in the mid 90s again.
851 - I guess that would be one way to go, using the old design, but I think an update of the successful cues from the past combined with some new ideas would be even better for a new SS model. I believe an exact copy of the old design would be limiting - a buyer could just buy a used bike if they wanted that! I'm thinking something like the 2005 Mustang or the 2010 Camaro design, which have a lot of retro flavor, but done in a new way (especially the Camaro in that regard). The sketch is pretty close to the design mark, IMO.
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If Ducati made a revised SS1000DS with solid suspension (think Showa/Ohlins) and, to my eye, nicer aesthetics, I'd be happy. As it is, I tried to trade an '02 998 for an SS1000DS and couldn't find one for trade or sale. I ended up trading it even up for an '07 FZ1 with 1K on the clock. Nice bike but there's nothing like a Ducati SS.

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The recipe for a modern SS is simple, Ducati got it right in 1991.

Superbike styling with a real family resemblance to the 1098 (just like the 90's SS had to the 851), a set of low hung pipes out either side (SS tradition), ergo's similiar to the 90's SS, a dry clutch and 2V engines (I'd like an 1100DS please), and keep it light and simple.

They do that and I reckon they'll be on a winner, however I am not really expecting Ducati to build anything that interests me, most of their recent machines I just don't like (new Monster, Multi, Streetfighter, Sportsclassics ... all butt ugly bikes imo) so I'll just stick with my old 900SS its still the bike I want to ride even with 179,000k's on the clock.

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Many on this board would agree with your views on the subject....
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I'll just stick with my old 900SS its still the bike I want to ride even with 179,000k's on the clock.
I love it. Im glad I bought a Supersport.

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