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996 SSR Kickstand seems too long

Hey guys. I wanted a longer kickstand because we all know the gangsta lean on the 996 is pretty extreme. Well some of us do and I am one of those that do.

So a wonderful person donated a SSR billet kickstand to me in my search for a 1098 kickstand and I couldnt be more grateful.

The issue I have now is it seems too long. On the stock kickstand it could be scary at times how far it leaned. Now, it seems too upright. I have attached a pic in my garage. This doesnt do it justice how upright it is. My garage is of course very flat and level. But, when I park in the drive way or with the slightest incline in a parking lot I almost feel its going to tip over the other direction.

In fact, when putting up the kickstand I have had to actually lean it to the right for it to fold up.

Now, SSR says to adjust the rear ride height slightly to get more lean according to the instructions on their site. Anyone done this? I have never adjusted suspension on any of my bikes and worry about the negative impacts from raising the rear height.
Here are the instructions from SSR.


10) Test to see how much the bike is leaning over on the kickstand. If the bike does NOT lean over enough with the billet kickstand, loosen the locknuts on the rear suspension control rod and make it longer. That will raise the back end of the bike and increase how much the bike leans over. Raising the back end a little will have NO detrimental effects in terms of handling. As a matter of fact, it will quicken steering and most owners will find the bike easier to haul through turns.
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Adjusting the geometry for a kickstand...lol... take it to a weld/fabrication shop
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Adjusting the geometry for a kickstand...
That was my thought. Didnít seem like the logical thing to do. But I know a lot of people are using them on the 916 era bikes. Hopefully someone that has used one can offer some insight. Maybe it isnít too high and Iím just not used to how upright it is.

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I'll trade you whatever you have for my OEM. With my setup the out most point of the kickstand is all that touches the ground. The Time Machine leans way over. This is a result of geometry setup to be how I like it. And for the most part, if you have to raise the rear ride height or rotate the eccentric to get the bike to lean more, it's not a big deal. If you aren't at the track that stuff doesn't matter and you will likely like the change.
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Hey guys. I wanted a longer kickstand because we all know the gangsta lean on the 996 is pretty extreme. Well some of us do and I am one of those that do.

So a wonderful person donated a SSR billet kickstand to me in my search for a 1098 kickstand and I couldnt be more grateful.

The issue I have now is it seems too long. On the stock kickstand it could be scary at times how far it leaned. Now, it seems too upright. I have attached a pic in my garage. This doesnt do it justice how upright it is. My garage is of course very flat and level. But, when I park in the drive way or with the slightest incline in a parking lot I almost feel its going to tip over the other direction.

In fact, when putting up the kickstand I have had to actually lean it to the right for it to fold up.

Now, SSR says to adjust the rear ride height slightly to get more lean according to the instructions on their site. Anyone done this? I have never adjusted suspension on any of my bikes and worry about the negative impacts from raising the rear height.
Here are the instructions from SSR.


10) Test to see how much the bike is leaning over on the kickstand. If the bike does NOT lean over enough with the billet kickstand, loosen the locknuts on the rear suspension control rod and make it longer. That will raise the back end of the bike and increase how much the bike leans over. Raising the back end a little will have NO detrimental effects in terms of handling. As a matter of fact, it will quicken steering and most owners will find the bike easier to haul through turns.
Lean angle seems about right .
Iím running a genuine 1098 leg on the 996 mounting plate , whilst sitting on the bike I have to lean slightly to the right sothat the stand clears the ground ,, itís never fallen over & Iíve never worried about it doing so ,, but I would constantly worry about it doing so with the stock 996 leg.
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I'll trade you whatever you have for my OEM. With my setup the out most point of the kickstand is all that touches the ground. The Time Machine leans way over. This is a result of geometry setup to be how I like it. And for the most part, if you have to raise the rear ride height or rotate the eccentric to get the bike to lean more, it's not a big deal. If you aren't at the track that stuff doesn't matter and you will likely like the change.
Interesting. I’m still very much in the air on if I’ll ever track it or not. And I still have my stock kickstand but thanks for the offer.

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Lean angle seems about right .
I’m running a genuine 1098 leg on the 996 mounting plate , whilst sitting on the bike I have to lean slightly to the right sothat the stand clears the ground ,, it’s never fallen over & I’ve never worried about it doing so ,, but I would constantly worry about it doing so with the stock 996 leg
Wow thanks for that pic. Good stuff. Looks like it’s spot on. I’ll run this way for a bit and see if I get used to it or if things get to sketchy.


In the meantime I think I’ll look into finding a block of scrap aluminum or delrin plastic and make a “shoe” for the stock stand.

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Don't muck around, just take it to a shop where they weld alloy... boat builder for example and get it cut to the length you need and put a nice big flat plate on the end so it can stand on soft ground (or tar)
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Three choices;

1. Live with whichever stand is closer
2. Adjust the ride height
3. Custom fabrication

I have the longer billet stand. I didn't need to increase ride height just for that purpose--that's where I already had it and in my opinion these bikes like it anyway. Why not adjust the rod, ride it, and see what you think? If you don't like it, lower it and figure out which stand to go with.

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Typically it is a higher lean angle, but I am playing with the geometry.
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Jeez, I thought my 916 had a damaged kickstand or something, it leans over so far.
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