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post #1 of 230 (permalink) Old Nov 9th, 2012, 2:40 pm Thread Starter
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Rebuilding '98 748SP Black on Black

I read a lot of stories about rebuilding a a bike, the do's and the don'ts.

To begin my story I bought my bike almost 10 year ago.

At that moment I didn't knew the difference between the Ducati types.
In my opinion you had: Biposto that was a two seater and Monoposto, a one seater!
And than you had, 916 that was the model and you had 748, 996, 998.
So I bought a 748SP, never noticed the SP part?

Within one year there was something wrong with the bike, I didn't knew what but it didn't felt good.
I brought my bike the the nearest Ducati dealer and asked to take a look.
The next day the dealer called me and say, please take a seat...,
Never heard of it but It was the flaking rocker problem???
My engine needed a rebuild cause there was all ready a lot of damage.
Costs: € 4000,- ($5000,-)
So my toughts were to buy a new engine.
He told me not to buy a new engine cause you never know the history and you might buy some new problems.
And your bike is a SP so she's worth it!
SP whats an SP?




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Ä4500,- was a lot of money but now I had a Blueprinted bike.
The engine was as new from that moment and the dealer asked me to come back after 1000km's for a test run.
And that was 2003.

Now It's 2012 and I've got the 1000 km's on the counter...
This is not good!

Alot of rubber parts dried out, tyres, hoses, belts and I can't see whats happened inside the engine?

Time for the rebuild.
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At this moment I thought, maybe this is nice for the MS Ducati forum so I started to take pictures
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The last pictures were taken a few weeks ago,



This is the engine at my local dealer for its great maintenance.
The costs weren't that high this time.





Now I've got the engine back home.
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The color of the engine covers wasn't really the color I wanted.

The covers were taken off so I asked, can you give the covers that typical gold color? (magnesium) Sure, no problem..., the old or the new color gold?
Ehm..., the bike is a '98 model so I guess thats old?

When the engine returned this morning I flipped a bit..., this is not the color I wanted! So I contacted the guy and he says, You wanted the Old color!
(this is the old color, a ducati color from the '70) Yes thats old nobody can argue about that!!

If I wanted the '98 color I had to choose the NEW color.
But anyway the paintjob is very well done so for the time being i'll leave it this way.

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Ok, why is this topic called "Black on Black"
When you put all the small parts together your bike (my bike) looks a bit like a Christmas tree.



There is gold..., but there are different kinds of gold.
And there is red..., in so many ways.
So I decided..., There is one color always the same...,

BLACK!!!



These aluminum parts are NOT painted but all anodized in BLACK.

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But we we're not talking about black.
We were talking about "Black on Black"

So the base got to be BLACK.



The frame is powder coated "Black 70% gloss".
100% gloss is like wetlook and looks very nice but not for a frame.
And 70% gloss is the nearest to the anodized parts.

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Fun project. Tearing these bikes down to bare frame and completely rebuilding them is tedious and time consuming but VERY rewarding in the end.

I rebuilt and modified my 748 last winter, and am currently rebuilding my 748R right now as well.

Looks like you've got a really good idea of the direction you want to go in. That gold is a little flashy lol, but I bet it will end up contrasting well against the black hardware and frame.

Best of luck on the project, can't wait to see the end result.

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Another miscommunication....

I wanted to do the 848/748 fork swap.
In the first place I wanted the 1098s Ohlins fork.
But a lot of people told me not to use the OEM fork but to look for the R&T.
Or..., buy the Showa fork for less and do a rebuild
So I bought a 1098 fork (for the BLACK lower parts) and brought it to a suspension tuner.
They inserted some Ohlins pistons and springs for my weight.
And if you may believe them, this should be a better fork then OEM Ohlins?





And here is another color issue...,
I asked for Ohlins Black (like the SBK bikes and Desmosedici's)
The fork returned in Ohlins Gold.
So I asked..., GOLD???? I wanted Ohlins BLACK for my "Black on Black" project.
In their opinion there was only one Ohlins color and that was GOLD.
Now my fork looks like a Ohlins wannabe!

Will be continued! In the mean time I'll search for an R&T to anodize in BLACK.

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Fun project. Tearing these bikes down to bare frame and completely rebuilding them is tedious and time consuming but VERY rewarding in the end.

I rebuilt and modified my 748 last winter, and am currently rebuilding my 748R right now as well.

Looks like you've got a really good idea of the direction you want to go in. That gold is a little flashy lol, but I bet it will end up contrasting well against the black hardware and frame.

Best of luck on the project, can't wait to see the end result.
FUN PROJECT..., Yes! Thanks Danbuc, why do only people on this forum understand me?
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