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Won't go into neutral when hot

'18 1260S: after 150 miles or so, I assume it has to do with the clutch fluid getting hot, when trying to get into neutral, it goes from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 1st, but will not go into neutral. Once it cools off, like after lunch, it works again until another few hours of running.
Anyone else have this? Could it have to do with DQS? Ideas?

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Bleed your clutch. Either water or air has gotten in there and expanding in the heat.

It's happened to me before, twice.

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Bleed your clutch. Either water or air has gotten in there and expanding in the heat.

It's happened to me before, twice.
Did that with no change. I used to have to bleed the clutch on my last 4 multis every 500 miles or so, and quite a bit of air would come out each time. No air bleeding out on this bike. Unless someone has another idea, I'll be bleeding from the slave with all new fluid to see if that works. It's the original fluid, but with 10k+ miles on it, shouldn't need replacing yet.

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If bleed down is not correct at the clutch lever you will not have enough clutch pack separation and the dragging clutch will make neutral hard to find.

New clutch lever?
If so did you adjust bleed down?

The engine grows with heat so a cold (smaller) motor will change clearances when it becomes warm (running temps) so it may be as simple as a slight adjustment .
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It will become 'better' with age.

Mine's the same during our summer...be sure to use all four fingers to pull lever in and blip the throttle.

Also when the engine is north of 190 the gear indicator has a life of its own, i can be in N but show either 1 or 2 or flicker
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Perfect, thanks!

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Interesting bulletin, didn't realize that was adjustable now.

I read it as "go to the dealer". None of the procedure sounds that complicated but you need $150 tool that you'll use once.

https://www.ducatiomaha.com/products/887132695

Plus a Rilsan pipe TWO "quick release inserts" and a "high precision glycerin filled pressure gauge"....ummm sure
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I'm checking with ducatitoolrental.com to see if they have the tools. Probably not, but worth a try as the adjustment is easy. Meanwhile I've made an app't w/ a dealer to get it adjusted under warranty. The service bulletin is a huge help.

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Interesting bulletin, didn't realize that was adjustable now.

I read it as "go to the dealer". None of the procedure sounds that complicated but you need $150 tool that you'll use once.

https://www.ducatiomaha.com/products/887132695

Plus a Rilsan pipe TWO "quick release inserts" and a "high precision glycerin filled pressure gauge"....ummm sure
I mean really, Can't they just have a simple master and slave like like every other standard bike and car in the world. The highest performance bikes use a cable. Simply can't see a need to alter the pressure between master and slave.
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