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wow ... don't hold back there DarR ... tell us how you really feel.

As true as it is, it's unfortunate.
Ok I won't hold back.
If you analyze dyno charts with aftermarket exhausts, it will become readily apparent that very little if any gains are produced at the top end of the power range. The plethora of gains are in the mid rpm range where all the emission testings are performed.
Furthermore, these gains are slim without modifying the AFR with a flash, upmap or fuel controller as the engine still runs too lean.
I suspect but have yet to prove (with dyno charts) that it's actually the modified fuel map which provides a good portion of the mid range performance enhancement. This would certainly be data that these exhaust manufacturers would not want the buying public to know.

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Hi guys! i have the full akrapovic and the rapidbike unit. Where can i find maps? i have on autotune but id like to see if there are another maps available for my bike.

Is one of the bests accessories i have for my bike. The sound is awesome!!
You can actually modify the tuned Rapidbike map withing the software. Save your map and save your tuned Rapidbike map.
Then reset your cells to zero and let it autotune again. The autotune cell adjustments should be much smaller the second time around.

BTW, a user map database would be nice.
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Did he told you something useful?

Thanks
This was his response (for question on Decel Pop, if bike running lean etc)

"as for the issue ( it is actually not an issue ) that is perfectly normal to have deceleration pop when the throttle is closed especially with the unrestricted good quality aftermarket exhaust systems..... HOWEVER, you can eliminate it ( at least some of it) on this particular model. You will need to have 0 ( zero ) fuel addition in 0% ( zero ) percent column in the software for both cylinders...... That should help... and again , deceleration pop is not a malfunction with an aftermarket exhaust."

After this he refused to answer any further questions and kinda rudely responded with one liners "please contact italy office for further help"

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Akrapovic says this slip on does fit with stock panniers. Does it not? I was counting on the fact that it did and have already installed the exhaust
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This was his response (for question on Decel Pop, if bike running lean etc)



"as for the issue ( it is actually not an issue ) that is perfectly normal to have deceleration pop when the throttle is closed especially with the unrestricted good quality aftermarket exhaust systems..... HOWEVER, you can eliminate it ( at least some of it) on this particular model. You will need to have 0 ( zero ) fuel addition in 0% ( zero ) percent column in the software for both cylinders...... That should help... and again , deceleration pop is not a malfunction with an aftermarket exhaust."



After this he refused to answer any further questions and kinda rudely responded with one liners "please contact italy office for further help"
Unfortunately I have the same experience with rapidbike.us. Usually he answers one out of three questions and then disappears. I got better luck contacting Italy directly. It takes them few days to answer emails, but they always do, also more professional and informative than US.
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Akrapovic says this slip on does fit with stock panniers. Does it not? I was counting on the fact that it did and have already installed the exhaust
If you're talking about this slip-on, then yes, it fits with panniers. I have it on my 1260.
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No it’s the newest version. Does yours have spacers where the passenger peg hanger bolts on subframe?
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No itís the newest version. Does yours have spacers where the passenger peg hanger bolts on subframe?
Yes, but I didn't use them @ passenger peg. I put one spacer between the hanger and the slip-on
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Unfortunately I have the same experience with rapidbike.us. Usually he answers one out of three questions and then disappears. I got better luck contacting Italy directly. It takes them few days to answer emails, but they always do, also more professional and informative than US.
So with all this, I think I will defer the plan to invest in a Rapid Bike Evo.

The bike is undergoing its 30k kms Desmo service. Will check on the run post new spark plugs/service etc. The stock ECU should do some learning/adapt and work towards stabilizing the AFR.

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No itís the newest version. Does yours have spacers where the passenger peg hanger bolts on subframe?
The OEM panniers will NOT fit if you use the peg spacers.

I ditched the spacers and used two flat washers, the panniers then worked.
This is for the new style slip-on.

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