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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 2015, 8:55 pm Thread Starter
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first track day on the multi!

spent 2 days at chuckwalla valley raceway earlier in the week with my new '15 multi. these were semi private coaching and learning days with rickdiculous racing (http://rickdiculousracing.com/); working on technique and lines. for me it was an opportunity to learn a bit more about my new bike and of course get some feedback from the coaches (ken hill and team).

the only change i made to the bike in preparation was to remove the center stand; so stock pegs and kept the pirelli angel gt tires on the bike; as the goal was to learn more about it in the set up i'll be riding it the most; on the street. i'd say ground clearance was a concern so just hung off a bit more :-).

it was definitely a challenge riding the multi on the track in a way that i'm used to; but after a few sessions i started to get to know where i could push it and where i needed to respect the type of bike this is and play to it's strengths.

it was a ton of fun, and now that i've done a few days i'm looking forward to taking it back as now i have a better feel for the bike in this environment. rather than write a long post about what worked and what was a challenge; feel free to ask and i'll be happy to share my perspective.

overall i'd say if you want to just go and enjoy a track day and don't care about lap times, the multi is more than capable.

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Great photos, looks like you've got a lot more room to lean the bike over to me though... Ever run the Multi link app? If so, what lean angles you getting?
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not sure "alot more room" is accurate, my foot was inches above the ground in most of the photos and i scraped more than a few times, that is the point of keeping the bike upright with good BP, to NOT scrape the pegs! yes i have the app, i did not have my phone in my track suit for obvious reasons but here's a screen shot from a ride i took in the canyons today, max lean angle of 49%.

i doubt i was running less at the track lol. i'd send you a photo of my tires but since they are sport touring tires again you have to be careful running too much lean angle, but i can assure you the rear was ridden to the edge and the front literally had less than a 1/8" of un used tire, so not sure where you think i should have gotten more lean angle, love to hear where...
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49% is pretty bad ass lean angle on a Multistrada I'd say... My max lean angle recorded stands at 46 degrees, and I'm calling that the end of >my< comfort zone.

Pictures don't do lean angle justice I guess. It just looks like your riding way off the bike... I can't imagine how much work you're doing repositioning for each turn is the reason I comment... Not picking or correcting anything, just observing. I should also say that I applaud you taking your Multi on the track... I won't take mine, just in case that temptation to go just a little faster were to ever come up.
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To me you're doing more than fine. Took my Multi(2011) also a few times to the track. I learned to maximize the lean angle, better body positioning, and build confidence in the bike and the tyre. (Angel GT). And some point you just have to stop going faster, because there's no more ground clearance and things can go wrong at that point. I even installed some higher footpegs for the trackdays ones.

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Nice pics! A friend of mine tracks his 2009 Multi and keeps trying to get me to do a track day with him. He is enjoying the track so much that he picked up a Triumph Daytona just to do track days on.

I found the stock tires to be a bit of a hindrance to really attacking corners... I had the Pirelli Scorpions though. I put Michelin Pilot Power 3s on my bike and I'm pretty happy with them. I have no intention of ever taking this bike off-road. I would like to do a track day on it though.

Funny, when I took the Scorpions off my bike at 2500 miles I sold them on Craigslist to some idiot with a 1098. Guy said it was his first bike and he had it less than 3 months. More money than brains I guess. I tried to tell him what kind of a bike the Multistrada is and that the tires were designed for on/off road use. He was more concerned that they would fit than if they were an appropriate tire for a sport bike.

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Great post! I have never done a motorcycle track day. Happy to hear the multi is up for it, I can see the slipper clutch, lightness and simplicity of the bike (mine is an 1100) helping. I say light as my other bike is even less suited, an air-cooled r1200r that I just got.

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ecoyne, i AM riding way off the bike. which i explained in my post was necessary to keep the pegs off the ground and maintain a respectable pace and a reduction in lean angle based on the ground clearance of the stock pegs and the fact that i suspect ducati did not build the multi thinking it would be at the track on a regular basis by a majority of it's buyers. that and it was my first time at the track on this bike.

there may be some lean angle room to explore next time i take it to the track but considering my boots and pegs were touching at certain corners, and i was on the angel gts, there probably is not much room, and like i said, the tires were literally run to the edges; even the front suprisingly (i've never used that much front tire before, 1/8" at most was clean), and that's why i was hanging off as much as i was.

now granted, i tend to use alot of BP in general to mitigate risk regardless of the bike; as that is what the pros teach; and i've had alot of coaching candidly. good bp reduces lean angle for the same pace and thus less lean angle; we've all heard it before but it works. by way of example, here's me riding my 2012 honda cb1000r at the track and one on an fz1.

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49% is pretty bad ass lean angle on a Multistrada I'd say... My max lean angle recorded stands at 46 degrees, and I'm calling that the end of >my< comfort zone.

Pictures don't do lean angle justice I guess. It just looks like your riding way off the bike... I can't imagine how much work you're doing repositioning for each turn is the reason I comment... Not picking or correcting anything, just observing. I should also say that I applaud you taking your Multi on the track... I won't take mine, just in case that temptation to go just a little faster were to ever come up.
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not sure "alot more room" is accurate, my foot was inches above the ground in most of the photos and i scraped more than a few times, that is the point of keeping the bike upright with good BP, to NOT scrape the pegs! yes i have the app, i did not have my phone in my track suit for obvious reasons but here's a screen shot from a ride i took in the canyons today, max lean angle of 49%.

i doubt i was running less at the track lol. i'd send you a photo of my tires but since they are sport touring tires again you have to be careful running too much lean angle, but i can assure you the rear was ridden to the edge and the front literally had less than a 1/8" of un used tire, so not sure where you think i should have gotten more lean angle, love to hear where...
Yes, thats about he max lean you can get before breaking your gear lever. To get more you will need higher pegs and diferent setup on the gear lever.

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Looks like fun, thanks for sharing!

I just picked up a new/leftover 2014 Multi a few months ago, and it's my first ever long-travel suspension bike. I've done a bunch of track days on my '12 Street Triple R and am trying to translate what I've learned there over to the Multi. Love the new bike but am definitely still getting used to it, just about everything (braking, leaning, BP, tire/suspension feedback) feels different once I'm pushing it a bit.

I'd be really interested to hear more details about what you find the key differences are between the Multi and a more traditional standard/sport bike. Any lessons/tips from the instructors on translating "regular" bike experience to the Multi?

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