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post #461 of 486 (permalink) Old Apr 6th, 2019, 10:03 pm
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If your 2012 had the original sensor then you will need an "update" for the ecu to use the newer sensors. I am not sure when they started it but MY 2013 definitely had a computer update when its first sensor crapped out.

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I tried to reflash with the newest tuneboy firmware from their site. It did not help.

But I know I can flash it back to get my cruise control so I will see if Ducati will flash it to fix it.

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post #462 of 486 (permalink) Old Apr 27th, 2019, 6:54 pm
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Ducati just refused to cover my 5th replacement fuel sensor because it was more than 12 months old. Average lifespan for me has been around 15 months with the last one hanging on for 18.

The latest part number is 592.1.021.1F, box date is 07/18. Mine was $101 incl tax thanks to my friendly salesman.

As noted by @t_bare , replacing the fuel sensor on a 2010-2012 bike requires a software update if it has not been done before. See attached parts document.
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post #463 of 486 (permalink) Old Apr 27th, 2019, 8:36 pm
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It's hopeless. Ducati (and BMW) are using the same junk material/components for the fuel sensor. The sooner you bypass it, the better. See ... https://www.ducati.ms/forums/179-dia...or-bypass.html

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It's hopeless. Ducati (and BMW) are using the same junk material/components for the fuel sensor. The sooner you bypass it, the better. See ... https://www.ducati.ms/forums/179-dia...or-bypass.html
Each to their own, I like having a working fuel gauge

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Each to their own, I like having a working fuel gauge
Oh, no doubt. A couple of times now, I've run out of gas in some pretty dangerous situations on the highway because I got the math wrong and/or was burning too much fuel going too fast. Scared the heck out of me.

My point is that I don't believe the sensor is fixable because it's just plain junk. I'd love to try an aftermarket one, but I haven't heard of any real good options out there.

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Finally got mine working at the dealer yesterday. Tech said there were two places he could flash and he must have flashed the wrong one.

Ugh.

But at least I have a working bike again.
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Oh, no doubt. A couple of times now, I've run out of gas in some pretty dangerous situations on the highway because I got the math wrong and/or was burning too much fuel going too fast. Scared the heck out of me.
This is what bothers me. I used to average close to 50mpg giving a range of 200 miles, on Friday I find I'm averaging 40mpg or lower on a run giving me 160 miles. I'm stopping to fill when I probably don't need to out of an abundance of caution.

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My point is that I don't believe the sensor is fixable because it's just plain junk. I'd love to try an aftermarket one, but I haven't heard of any real good options out there.
I agree. I just decided that at $100 and an hour or so of my time periodically, I'd treat it as a disposable item

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Talked to a guy at Ducati Austin and was told the problem is due to the US having ethanol in the fuel and they have no problem in Italy. If that is true than why is it Kawasaki or Honda doesn't seem to have this problem? Or their parent company VW or Audi? VW or Audi fuel gauges seem to work just fine. Maybe Ducati needs to ask VW for fuel gauge technology. Just boggles my mind that they can create some of the most amazing electronics on a motorcycle but they can't build a decent fuel gauge.
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Just boggles my mind that they can create some of the most amazing electronics on a motorcycle but they can't build a decent fuel gauge.
That's because - like most things these days - the fuel gauge is being built by the lowest bidder contract manufacturer in China and it's just not a priority item for Ducati.

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That's because - like most things these days - the fuel gauge is being built by the lowest bidder contract manufacturer in China and it's just not a priority item for Ducati.
Having just installed my 5th in less than 5 years, I'm as pissed as anyone, especially as Ducati refused to warranty my last one.

It is made by COBO (see https://www.cobogroup.net/en/) which is originally an Italian company formed in 1949, albeit now a worldwide consortium. Not a small operation from what I could glean from a quick scan with Google; they partner with Ducati and Pagani (supercars). Some manufacturing in Romania and even the US. Where this part is made is not clear, there are no markings on mine and it could as easily be eastern Europe as China.

Ultimately, the accountability remains with Ducati; they know its defective and are merely accepting iterative changes rather than demanding a redesign.

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