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for those interested got the 2011 ECU reflash with the service. apparently they only just got it and mine was the second to have it done. this is the Official 2011 spec ECU upgrade with ABS improvements. i will be sure to give it a test over the week. As for fueling, i was pretty happy with the unofficial upgrade last yr so time will tell whether i can notice any difference in performance/mileage.

As for Frasers themselves i am quite happy to report that the level of service was good ( i dont take my Harley there cause of poor service yrs ago , but im pretty happy with how they went about their business today and looked after me )
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i should add that there is one noticeable difference on the dash - it "warns" you that the red switch hasnt been put in the "off" position after you turn the motor off .
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[QUOTE=w0mb2t;1018007]for those interested got the 2011 ECU reflash with the service. apparently they only just got it and mine was the second to have it done. this is the Official 2011 spec ECU upgrade with ABS improvements. i will be sure to give it a test over the week. As for fueling, i was pretty happy with the unofficial upgrade last yr so time will tell whether i can notice any difference in performance/mileage. QUOTE]

Are you sure about the ABS upgrade? Do you know what they did to the ABS?
I have beed assured that there is no ABS upgrade by my dealer.

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for those interested got the 2011 ECU reflash with the service. apparently they only just got it and mine was the second to have it done. this is the Official 2011 spec ECU upgrade with ABS improvements. i will be sure to give it a test over the week. As for fueling, i was pretty happy with the unofficial upgrade last yr so time will tell whether i can notice any difference in performance/mileage. QUOTE]

Are you sure about the ABS upgrade? Do you know what they did to the ABS?
I have beed assured that there is no ABS upgrade by my dealer.

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pete , i was advised by the head of service at Frasers that the flash was the official 2011 spec and that it included an upgrade to ABS . he advised that NFI only rec'd it "days ago" . Cant say any more or less than what i was told. I did not go in there to get it done so it came as a surprise that when i picked up bike that is what i was advised. there is a change on dash so i know that there has been an upgrade... a few planned emergency stops when i get the chance may tell me whether the abs has improved .... the fact that NFI occupy the same building gives me some level of confidence that the head of service knows what he is talking about. I mentioned this to the Ducati sales guy on the way out and he also seemed to know about the 2011 spec upgrade. BTW He said that the latches for the panniers were due in next month. - a model on the floor had them on. The latches seemed to work quite well, and not nearly as bad as speculated months ago when first announced
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tested the improved ABS

imho the abs front wheel appears to cut in with less effort ( ie not as hard braking , but the abs is then more consistent in its on/off. Before , if the ABS did kick in under very hard braking, it almost gave the impression that the brake then "failed" for a brief moment. Overall , i would say that there has been an improvement through consistency of application of the abs and therefore better stopping distance. the rear tyre also appears to be doign a better job. Before ( again imo ) , once the abs kicked in , it stayed kicked in , and the rear provided no stopping power whatsoever. that has now changed.
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After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well.
I have the full Termi system. I noticed that the bike didn't sputter, cough and backfire anywhere near as much. The power delivery is now superb. The bike didn't seem that it would stall on takeoff as it did this morning before the update.

Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written) I did notice that the fuel consumption now reads Litres per 100 Kilometres not the stupid and unheard on Kilometres per Litre that it used to be. (By the way, it was 6.1 lt per 100km in city cycle which I am very happy with).

The ignition, steering lock and power off now work immediately and without hesitation- one of my previous gripes.

I couldn't get the abs to activate in the dry- which is a good thing. It used to activate and extend the stopping distance excessively. Wet and slippery roads will show how good this update is for the ABS.

Whilst we dont have the pannier latches yet in Australia (one more week?) I looked at them on an '11 model in the showroom and I dont think that they are offensive in appearance.

Conclusion
- dont wait for a service to get this update. It makes a great bike with some stupid defects perfect.

-I now have more faith in Ducati- even if they are a little slow to fix problems.

Only ongoing gripes-

the centrestand should be designed even better than the '11 model and replaced on all MTS1200's (I've ordered an SW-Motech which is hopefully better designed
the rear brake still doesn't work (yes, I know its identical to the HM1100 that I have and that does work) and I don't know why.
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After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well.
I have the full Termi system. I noticed that the bike didn't sputter, cough and backfire anywhere near as much. The power delivery is now superb. The bike didn't seem that it would stall on takeoff as it did this morning before the update.

Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written) I did notice that the fuel consumption now reads Litres per 100 Kilometres not the stupid and unheard on Kilometres per Litre that it used to be. (By the way, it was 6.1 lt per 100km in city cycle which I am very happy with).

The ignition, steering lock and power off now work immediately and without hesitation- one of my previous gripes.

I couldn't get the abs to activate in the dry- which is a good thing. It used to activate and extend the stopping distance excessively. Wet and slippery roads will show how good this update is for the ABS.

Whilst we dont have the pannier latches yet in Australia (one more week?) I looked at them on an '11 model in the showroom and I dont think that they are offensive in appearance.

Conclusion
- dont wait for a service to get this update. It makes a great bike with some stupid defects perfect.

-I now have more faith in Ducati- even if they are a little slow to fix problems.

Only ongoing gripes-

the centrestand should be designed even better than the '11 model and replaced on all MTS1200's (I've ordered an SW-Motech which is hopefully better designed
the rear brake still doesn't work (yes, I know its identical to the HM1100 that I have and that does work) and I don't know why.
Hi, I also had the update done yesterday & agree completely with what you say (mine is a Touring with full termi system). Much nicer bike. I confirmed that it included an ecu firmware update.
"Whilst I havent noticed that it warns you to put the red switch in the upright position on engine off (as has been written)" You require a new RHS switch, like mine does. If you can get the switch in a certain position, it will show the message, my mechanic showed me how the switch was intermittent & has ordered the updated switch.
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QUOTE: After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well. **

Did you call in or book in and get the update done?
Did you receive a letter in the mail from Ducati re having the update installed?
Was it done when you had a sevice done?
I was told by Frasers Service Dept. I need to wait for Ducati to send me a letter to get the update done. This is apparently so Frasers can claim the update on warranty.
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QUOTE: After reading that the 2011 ecu flash was finally available in Australia I had it done today at Frasers as well. **

Did you call in or book in and get the update done?
Did you receive a letter in the mail from Ducati re having the update installed?
Was it done when you had a sevice done?
I was told by Frasers Service Dept. I need to wait for Ducati to send me a letter to get the update done. This is apparently so Frasers can claim the update on warranty.


ummmm nope ... the guys said they did it when i got bike back from service
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I had some stuff done to my bike yesterday and whilst it was there they applied (according to the service guy) 4 different ECU updates: Engine ECU, ABS, DTC, and Dash. Haven't ridden much since, but did notice the following:

The bike feels smoother on overrun. The dash displays fuel consumption in L/100km instead of km/L. Wasn't able to test ABS or DTC. I like km/L so I hope there's a way to switch it back - perhaps the same menu where you select units? After all, nobody uses "gallons per hundred miles"

I looked for the "switch still down" warning but couldn't make it happen.

By the way, they checked my brakes as I wasn't happy with the "pulsating" feeling I spoke about in a previous post, and they found my discs were warped (slightly). They are going to replace my discs and pads under warranty

They found air in my rear brake line and bled it out. Result: the rear brake is now what I would consider satisfactory. A vast improvement. All in all, a good service!

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