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916 ST4 vs 996 ST4?

I ride an 800SS that I really enjoy, but it has two deficiencies that are making me consider an ST4: I can't bring my wife along and I can't take week-long trips on it.

I was wondering what you all thought of the difference between the ST4's with the 916 engine vs the ones with the 996 engine? I'm considering a 2000 ST4, which has the smaller engine.

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... I'm considering a 2000 ST4, which has the smaller engine... ape
Apehair, bigger is better remember? However, I wouldn't have any reservations about the smaller engine. But, I believe there were some specific issues or improvements made to the post 2000 ST4 that would be more of a concern which other, more knowledgeable members my have immediately at hand so I'll let the experts chime in here. One thought though, and hopefully I won't be banned forever is that you have the one-up Ducati so perhaps a different bike entirely. Would the wife be adverse to a Beemer GS? Good comfort for two and can handle dirt or gravel better.
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I ride an 800SS that I really enjoy, but it has two deficiencies that are making me consider an ST4: I can't bring my wife along and I can't take week-long trips on it.

I was wondering what you all thought of the difference between the ST4's with the 916 engine vs the ones with the 996 engine? I'm considering a 2000 ST4, which has the smaller engine.

Thanks,

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If you are riding an 800SS, you could even consider an ST2. A lot less maintenance, less HP but still a lot of fun.
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I bought my 99 ST4 in 2003 with 7,000 miles. I now have 47,000 miles on it. I commuted on it, 2 up rides in the summer months, a long trip every year to the annual ST gathering. It has been the perfect bike for me. Absolutely no regrets at all. I tend to ride bikes to their limits and this bike has never let me down. Hours of riding in excess of 100 mph in Nevada and Eastern Oregon. Great through the twisties. Yes, the 996 motor is even better and the suspension on the newer ST4S is also superior, but the base model is still fun and will give years of grins. I replaced two rockers at 12,000 miles and thats about it. It has been very reliable. I have always liked the feel of this bike, very balanced.

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I bought my 99 ST4 in 2003 with 7,000 miles. I now have 47,000 miles on it. I commuted on it, 2 up rides in the summer months, a long trip every year to the annual ST gathering. It has been the perfect bike for me. Absolutely no regrets at all. I tend to ride bikes to their limits and this bike has never let me down. Hours of riding in excess of 100 mph in Nevada and Eastern Oregon. Great through the twisties. Yes, the 996 motor is even better and the suspension on the newer ST4S is also superior, but the base model is still fun and will give years of grins. I replaced two rockers at 12,000 miles and thats about it. It has been very reliable. I have always liked the feel of this bike, very balanced.

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wait, I thought the suspension on the ST4 earlier was adjustable and all,
the laters are not. So the early suspensions were better. ???

either way, right at 47k on mine and with the DP chip and Sli motor exhaust, I'd not trade for the 996.

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The 4S has the adustable Ohlins, and the hardened finish forks ( titanium nitride ????)


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wait, I thought the suspension on the ST4 earlier was adjustable and all,
the laters are not. So the early suspensions were better. ???

either way, right at 47k on mine and with the DP chip and Sli motor exhaust, I'd not trade for the 996.

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I've ridden two up with no problem, I guess the size of the companion could matter. The ST4 (916) is a blast to ride, I don't know what I would do with more ponies, and I don't believe that you give up many ponies to the larger brethren. I would look at the other factors.

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Apehair,

The 4s has more mid range torque which is great for blasting out of curves. Also better suspension. Some of the 4ss were fitted with a very good ABS. Later (post '03) had better seat and more protective fairing.

I suggest you search for either and settle on the best bike for the money. Insist on complete service records. Even if a dealer didn't do all the work the right owner will have kept receipts for oil, etc. If you go with a 4s demand all keys including the red key.

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I've ridden two up with no problem, I guess the size of the companion could matter. The ST4 (916) is a blast to ride, I don't know what I would do with more ponies, and I don't believe that you give up many ponies to the larger brethren. I would look at the other factors.

mines been dynoed at 107 rear wheel,

are the later 4s adjustable both rebound and compression on the fronts,
The finish on the lower fork housings I like kind of plain.

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