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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old May 11th, 2019, 7:21 pm Thread Starter
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Two up riding comfort.

OK so I have an old Monster that does everything I need in a bike, solo riding, commuting, and the weekend rides with my daughter and such. My wife has her own bike but too many years as a hairdresser has taken its toll with arthritis setting in, in her hands so she has a problem with the controls on her bike so she mentioned to me today that I need to get something more comfortable than the Monster for her to ride pillion. Woohoo she just green lighted me to get another bike. My question is how are the St's for pillion riding? Her dad and brother are total Guzzi nuts but I'm not ready for the cruiser/Harley or whatever ride yet so I was curious about options.

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My wife and I are pretty comfortable. I'm 6", 210 lbs, she's 5'5" and I'm not allowed to say (i've been married for 30 years... ) so it's not as roomy as a Goldwing...but we do all day in the saddle without any problems. We have a Corbin (canyon close) as well as a Sargent saddle. Both are comfortable although we have limited 2-up travel time on the Sargent. We also have the top box with a back pad that Molly finds essential. I have the bike's suspension sprung and set up for my weight. Of course, adding the pillion changes the handling, but I'm only riding at 60% with a passenger. We never bottom out or experience any handling issues. We have the ST3...a bit more torque in the bottom of the rev range than the ST4. Engine has plenty of grunt two-up to keep a smile on my face.

We did an Edelweiss Bike trip a few years back...rented a BMW RT1200. I had more room, but Molly liked the comfort/ride of the ST over the BMW. Of course, the handling of the ST was superior to the BMW too! We sat on..did not ride...a Guzzi Norge...way too cramped for my liking. Maybe the Stelvio...but I prefer the looks of the ST.

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Awesome thank you for the reply. Looks like I'll be doing some research ha-ha.

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A big pillion improvement for me on the ST was to get a Sargent seat, it will make her a lot more comfortable (and you).

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A big pillion improvement for me on the ST was to get a Sargent seat, it will make her a lot more comfortable (and you).
Ha-ha right, if mama aint happy no one's happy. Thanks for the tip on the seat, so far that seems to be a common issue across all platforms, not just the ST's.
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My wife loves the ST4s with the DP comfort seat. She can tell it's easier for me to ride with her on it than the ZX 11. I've sent the shock to Chris at Ohlins now a 2nd time for adjustments to prevent scraping the pipes on turns with dips. We like going fast. Its essentially a sportbike with saddle bags that does it all. I'm 5'9" and shes 5'4".
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It's an awesome pillion bike! I've had a number of different riders back there (was single when I got the bike) and they all loved it. The top case, as Mike mentioned, is a huge plus for the pillion. If this will be a pillion only bike, I highly recommend getting a heavier rear spring and be sure to get an "s" model. Oh, and I'm using the stock seat which I find to be just fine for me. One last thing, I have scraped my exhaust pipe on speed bumps on occasion. I don't have a heavier spring, and I have the rear set to maximum stiffness.

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Sweet just what I needed to hear I guess I need to get off my arse, get her bike sold, and start ST shopping ha-ha.

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I have an old BMW R100RS for me. And a 98 ST2 for me. And a Honda ST1300 for US. She is OK but not too happy on the BMW. She hated the ST2 even though it has a comfy Sargent seat. Also she leaned forward on me and it buggered my shoulders.
But she LOVES riding on the back of the ST1300. Plus they run forever and are fairly inexpensive. Mine is very fast and handles very well. That's a proper bike to sport your girl on.

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Seems to me the goodness of the ST for two-up depends on your objective. It really is good with a willing rider for twisty touring. Not sure I would want to use it for cross country comfort touring. Pillion tends to naturally lean forward with me over time.

I'd say that choosing an ST for two-up is like choosing a sport bike for one-up. They are excellent fast, sporty machines and excel when used for that kind of riding. They make similar, sporting demands on the rider(s) as well - physical and practical. Consider that when using a sport bike when crossing over into other riding styles.

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