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post #51 of 59 (permalink) Old Nov 11th, 2017, 10:05 am
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The KTM 790 concept looks awesome. I really like the direction some of these mid size adventure bikes are going. The problem for me is the seat height, all though the KTM looks reasonable. I work in a shop that sells BMW and Yamaha so if purchasing new I'd stick to those two brands. I fit the current BMW 700GS or a factory lowered 800GS. I suspect the new 750/850GS will be similar. The current Yamaha WR250R is way too tall for me and just going from the pics/videos and the comment made by one of the presenters at EIMCA I suspect the 700 Tenere will be too tall for me also.

We are a Ducati dealer also so a Desert Sled still remains a possibility. We have over 2000 kms of gravel roads in the province I live in, I want a bike suitable to explore them.
I spent some time out towards Banff and absolutely loved it. I hope to be back next Spring or Summer to explore the Jasper, AB area. A dual sport or adventure bike up there would be awesome for me as the scenery, people and, places would be even better outside of the 'cage'!

At ~5'6" and a 31" inseam, I'm not the tallest guy around. However, my KLX-250S with tweaked suspension is ~34.5" tall. No flat-footing at a stoplight, it can be a bit awkward in tight parking and, a bit intimidating to many when they first try it on for size. However, once used to it, it really isn't much (or any) of a problem in normal riding. I find the high 'perch' to be a real asset riding in and around traffic as it lets me see the "Griswold's" far enough in advance to avoid the craziness.

Isn't the Yamaha WR250R 37"+ in seat height with ~12"/13" of suspension travel? That is pretty tall for anyone but an experienced off-road rider. The other thing to consider is width at the base of the tank and footpegs. A Suzuki Vstrom 650 is much more 'unsteady' for me than my KLX or KTM dirt bike because even with a taller seat the suspension sag and narrow frame don't 'SPLAY' my legs like that Vstrom. Is a BMW GS with the low seat too tall for you? It looks a bit tall for me but, I found the normal seat model to be a good fit for my frame.

While I like the larger adventure bikes, I don't need or want the extra bulk even if they have another 60+ horsepower. The big KTM adventures are more motorcycle than I really want as I ride single exclusively and don't travel with a sleeper sofa and 80qt ice chest. My little KLX-250S is a wonderful ride on country roads but, getting passed by a Greyhound bus or Semi-truck on the Interstate just throws me all over the road. It also lacks the horsepower to accelerate at highways speeds out of harm's way.

This is what brings me back to wanting something like a KTM-640 Adventure or BMW Dakar of old or, a ~500~550 pound 'wet' dual sport or adventure bike with power a KLR-650 lacks or the range an XL-650 can only dream off.

For what you are wanting, a new BMW GS650 wouldn't be a bad way to go if ~45HP isn't a problem and, the price point leaves plenty left over for gas money to extend your travels.
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post #52 of 59 (permalink) Old Nov 20th, 2017, 2:10 pm
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Pulled the trigger when I came across a deal I couldn't pass up. Well maintained, low mileage 2012 Aprilia Tuono V4 aPRC.

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I have had a lot of "second" bikes over the 11 years of ST ownership. Current one is a keeper for a while. Mainly used for track days and summer rides.....
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Aprilia is a popular second bike from what I see here and what my friends have.
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Aprilia is a popular second bike from what I see here and what my friends have.
Ahh not much activity on this page. Apriia gone and now have something a little different to go with the ST. I am loving it.
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The Goose is very cool, just not sure about that sissy bar... any insight on that?

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The Goose is very cool, just not sure about that sissy bar... any insight on that?
Haha yes the Ventura pack rack Scott. One of the first things removed and now with nice classic round bar end mirrors.
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I'd like to have an Aprilia. As for me the fourth bike is the '04 SSDS and I need to thin the herd sometime soon. What to do....what to do....

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O well, I'm not looking for performance in a second ride. Mine is an old Trumpy 750 5 speed from 1973.
It's not the most ideal bike for many reasons but I found a local bloke with another quite similar and it's good to ride together.
It's much slower and handles and stops much worse than the Duke of course, but i'm thinking it's going to be quite a fun ride if it keeps on going.
Mine is in the foreground.
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