Thinking of Moving to New Zealand - Thoughts? - Page 2 - Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old May 16th, 2013, 7:17 am
Senior Member
 
damossguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Posts: 351
Garage
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corse1 View Post
Yes and I know plenty of people that have moved to OZ and come back. Probably coming from the states the OZ economy and country would be a better move than coming to NZ. People come here for the way of life more than the money. Our MD has been with us for 20 years from OZ and has moved back last month due to his and his wife's parents falling ill. He didn't want to go. He had a very good argument for staying in NZ. He reckons he will be back.

It goes on and on. I for one would not never want to live in OZ and I have spent plenty of time there. If you are able to get a good paying job here there is really no incentive to move to OZ. Most of the kiwis that have moved are labourers or trades staff like builders, metal trades etc where the Australian economy offers better conditions and wages but the budget this week from the OZ government is not positive and the OZ dollar has slipped back below the US dollar.

Hey I am not biased as I have two step sons living in OZ with good jobs and future. The guts is going to if not already started to drop out of the mining and all NZ power companies are being floated on the share market soon.

As Damossguy says the best thing to do would be to visit both countries and make your own decision.
Quote:
Originally Posted by nzdave View Post
Quite a few years ago, our Prime Minister at the time, said, that all the NZers moving to Aussie raised the IQ of both countries
Hey cuzzy bros, don't think I'm having a nationalistic dig at NZ by my comment. Just trying to help our US bro make an informed decision.

I think NZ is a beautiful place with fantastic people. Labour relations is what I do for a living though and I have a lot of ex-pat Kiwi mates who have shared their tales with me on the current state of industrial relations over the ditch. It doesn't appeal to me and appears to have many years to go before improving.

If you have a high paying specialised role it may not be of concern to you. Would really suck though to relocate and find yourself unemployed or underpaid.

Then again as mentioned, it may be a much better employment environment than currently in the US.

Did a bit of intergoogling whilst writing this and found a website with a bunch of different opinions on it re: NZ vs Aus as places to live. I haven't read it all, nor do I endorse the opinions but it's always good to inject more thoughts into the mix.

New Zealand and Australia

Enjoy!

Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one...
damossguy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 19 (permalink) Old May 16th, 2013, 8:09 am Thread Starter
Member
 
chaz76vette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Redlands, CA, USA
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by damossguy View Post
Hey cuzzy bros, don't think I'm having a nationalistic dig at NZ by my comment. Just trying to help our US bro make an informed decision.
...
Labour relations is what I do for a living
...
it's always good to inject more thoughts into the mix.
This is exactly what I was hoping for, thank you guys! Hearing your first-hand experience in each country is a great starting place for me, since I won't be able to take enough time off to visit anytime soon I figured Australia would be more diverse/dynamic/robust in just about every way, which would make living there easier, but as Corse1 said it's the way of life I'm more interested in learning about. The job/career part is a "binary" and I would know whether it's a "yes" or a "no" before coming over.

Is it easy to start & run a business in either country? Over here it has become very difficult to do either in the last few years and I would never start a business here under current conditions, but I've always wanted to run a little side show like a wine bottling company or shop. I'd love to hear you guys' thoughts on that.

Thanks again!

2007 GT1000
1996 Harley Sportster Hardtail
1992 GSXR 600
1981 GL500
1975 CB550
2004 Mazdaspeed Miata
chaz76vette is offline  
post #13 of 19 (permalink) Old May 17th, 2013, 9:46 am
Senior Member
 
748girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 2,379
chaz76vette

Here is a sample of jobs (hope the link works) that came up when I typed in Power Station into one of Australia's biggest job search websites SEEK - Job Search - Find jobs using multiple job search options
748girl is offline  
 
post #14 of 19 (permalink) Old May 18th, 2013, 10:20 am Thread Starter
Member
 
chaz76vette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Redlands, CA, USA
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by 748girl View Post
chaz76vette

Here is a sample of jobs (hope the link works) that came up when I typed in Power Station into one of Australia's biggest job search websites SEEK - Job Search - Find jobs using multiple job search options
Yeah, there's a lot of good jobs on there. It'll be a few years before I can realistically make the trip, but that's why I'm starting to ask and do research now.

Does anyone know how difficult it is to start a business in NZ (or Aus)? That's something I'd want to do eventually, and it depends on taxation, rules on hiring, etc. Plus I have no idea what the state of the healthcare system is, from a ground-level point of view.

2007 GT1000
1996 Harley Sportster Hardtail
1992 GSXR 600
1981 GL500
1975 CB550
2004 Mazdaspeed Miata
chaz76vette is offline  
post #15 of 19 (permalink) Old May 18th, 2013, 7:42 pm
Senior Member
 
markopas's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 127
I would be worried about employment especially when you become an immigrant to a foreign country. I would look at their ministries website and do the necessary research because I think it would be tough to be hired by someone who may require to fill out the proper forms unless they are willing to sponsor you.
markopas is offline  
post #16 of 19 (permalink) Old May 18th, 2013, 9:03 pm
Senior Member
 
748girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 2,379
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaz76vette View Post
Yeah, there's a lot of good jobs on there. It'll be a few years before I can realistically make the trip, but that's why I'm starting to ask and do research now.

Does anyone know how difficult it is to start a business in NZ (or Aus)? That's something I'd want to do eventually, and it depends on taxation, rules on hiring, etc. Plus I have no idea what the state of the healthcare system is, from a ground-level point of view.
Here are some links that may help you. As a non-resident I believe you pay more tax, possibly and I am not sure if this has changed have your own Private Health Cover (there are lots of choices in this area) and if you have children you are responsible for their education. A couple of years ago the company I worked for sponsored a non-resident - he was always saying how hard it was as a non-resident in terms of the extra tax, etc. and certain from the company's perspective a lot of extra paperwork in complying with regulations.

International tax essentials
Personal income tax rates for non-residents
Visas, Immigration and Refugees
Foreigner Starting A Business In Australia - Australian Government Grants and Loans

If you are serious about a move to either Australia or NZ get a good Immigration Lawyer!
748girl is offline  
post #17 of 19 (permalink) Old May 20th, 2013, 12:52 am Thread Starter
Member
 
chaz76vette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Redlands, CA, USA
Posts: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by 748girl View Post
Here are some links that may help you. As a non-resident I believe you pay more tax, possibly and I am not sure if this has changed have your own Private Health Cover (there are lots of choices in this area) and if you have children you are responsible for their education. A couple of years ago the company I worked for sponsored a non-resident - he was always saying how hard it was as a non-resident in terms of the extra tax, etc. and certain from the company's perspective a lot of extra paperwork in complying with regulations.

International tax essentials
Personal income tax rates for non-residents
Visas, Immigration and Refugees
Foreigner Starting A Business In Australia - Australian Government Grants and Loans

If you are serious about a move to either Australia or NZ get a good Immigration Lawyer!
Thank you very much! More reading = better informed

2007 GT1000
1996 Harley Sportster Hardtail
1992 GSXR 600
1981 GL500
1975 CB550
2004 Mazdaspeed Miata
chaz76vette is offline  
post #18 of 19 (permalink) Old May 28th, 2013, 12:19 pm
Senior Member
 
spdfrk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Atlanta, GA, USA
Posts: 436
Images: 15
Weather should be a big consideration, especially for a biker. I lived in NZ for the first 30 years of my life, so this isn't conjecture.

I know a US guy who moved to NZ for the 'lifestyle' in 1996. He was an older guy at the end of his career and a very analytical type. He'd planned his emigration very carefully becuase he was choosing the country of his intended retirement. He considered a LOT of factors. He told me that he wished he'd researched one more factor before deciding, and that was rainfall.

It's not the end of the world but it can be pretty wet, very often, which can put a real damper on a motorcyclists lifestyle, literally.

There's a good reason the first inhabitants named the country 'aoteroa' (land of the long white cloud) i.e it can be very cloudy/rainy, often.

And there's also very good reason that a common saying about NZ is that it's a place where you often experieince "4 seasons in one day". A pretty famous song aboit it even uses that line. What this can mean for a motorcyclist is having to hump a lot of gear with you when you ride i.e. Waking up and riding to work while there is frost on the ground, then riding in bright and uncomfortably HOT midday sun, then having buckets of rain make afternoon riding a swelteringly muggy mess, only to then have to deal with bitter cold on the dark ride home.

Cost of living is super high too - rated in the top 3 (worst) in the world in a recent article I read.

But it is a beautiful... place.
spdfrk is offline  
post #19 of 19 (permalink) Old Jun 17th, 2013, 7:05 am
Senior Member
 
steveb64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Whangarei, , New Zealand
Posts: 2,462
Garage
Images: 2
Just dropping my 5c worth in - re the weather here - it varies hugely. From day to day, to week to week, to year to year. As an example - last summer was the driest we've had in 70 years. The previous summer was the wettest in 60 years. The plus side is that it's never too hot to go for a ride in the summer - unlike Aus. In the winter - it depends on what part of the country you live in, as NZ stretches north-south. From about this time of the year on - the southern end of the South Island can get snow to sea level (due in a few days) - while where I am (northern end of the North Island) - we're still getting 20 degree C days. Even the coldest days up here rarely drop below 10C in the day - nights can be a bit colder, with the occasional frost. While it's no fun riding in the wet - it's nothing a set of good tyres and wet weather gear can't cope with... ...and maybe a set of heated grips for the trips south. Even down in Wellington (south end of North Island), winter rides are OK - just wear a bit more gear - like thermal undies... , and try to stick to dry days...

As for work - well, it's depressed - but how's your geothermal tickets/quals? There's a few of those being planned - either replacements, or upgrades, or new. Also, check Trade Me Jobs - Thousands of New Zealand jobs. Find a job today, or Jobs on SEEK - New Zealand's no.1 Employment, Career and Recruitment site, or NZ Herald Jobs - New Zealand Employment, Careers & Job Search - they will give you a fairly good idea of what's going, and where.

One other thing going for NZ over Aus - no snakes here. Or crocodiles...

Oh - one other thing - we don't get silly low speed limits set on nice twisty (well - only in a couple of places on main/major roads) bits of road. They just post 'recommended' speeds for corners or a 'twisty road' warning sign, and for how far - but no 30 or 40 mph limits - particularly on the back roads - of which there are plenty.

'95 900 Superlight IV #064

Mods are: K&N filter, airbox lid on with rubber trumpets removed, MBP collets, full SMI (SilMoto Italia) spaghetti exhaust with 'open' carbon cans, 41mm FCR's - #182 mains!, Barnett alloy clutch basket, Oberon slave cylinder, Ohlins fork springs, Ohlins rear shock, Verlicchi swingarm.
steveb64 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Zealand: Any Thoughts? chaz76vette Chit Chat 12 May 14th, 2013 5:12 pm
Recurrant thoughts on moving, Sweden->US Rax86 Chit Chat 61 Apr 29th, 2013 6:37 am
Thinking about moving to Denver Co robacks Chit Chat 36 Dec 24th, 2012 10:07 am
Thinking of moving to Ducati Gary86 Welcome and Introduction 3 Oct 22nd, 2011 5:55 am
Harley thinking about moving .... jack Chit Chat 13 Sep 25th, 2010 5:12 am

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome