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So, if The Future is Electric, Where do we go now?

Not sure if this falls in scope with the similarly titled thread, so here's a new one!

I too have been pondering this eBike eventuality for a few years, half loathing, half anticipating the actualization of such a machination. I remember sitting on Honda's prototype thinking 'Where's my clutch? My gears? The roar and rattle of the thing I so adore? There's FIRE in there dammit!!, it's supposed to be hot!' Then, I unleashed a Homer Simpson-esque wail of subjugation.

Then again, one test report I read stated something along the lines of 'it felt like the hand of god was pushing me along the road'. Or something such. That sounds kinda fun! Like flying without all the baggage.

Unsurprisingly, I cling to all my Bevels, but I do have a couple Belts in the garage too. Hhmm. Perhaps there is some room for... wires(?). That new eDuke certainly looks cool. And it won't run outta gas will it!

Of the potential offerings manufacturers have(that I have seen at least), they all seem to be direct challenge to litre bikes; the biggest, the fastest, et al. This makes sense of course, its gotta be better than the best, or its no good. A technological regression if you will. The Twin killed the Single, and Ducati didn't look back.

My question; is this then, also the death of the sub-litre motorcycle? Assuming we still refer to it as a motorcycle. What will the new classes(if any) be like?

Certainly not a displacement-based dinosaur. Maybe KW? HP? A or AAA battery size?

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No vroom vroom, no sale. Thatís what I think. It will be an appliance. If itís really fast it will be like a carnival ride. I canít see it being practical without a usable range. I will look at electric motorcycles with sadness and disdain. Itís like those little shitbox turbo cars. Sure theyíre fast, but theyíre still a little shitbox. Nothing you can do will make them not a shitbox. So it shall be with electric bikes.
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What do I think?

I think you should reserve judgement until you’ve ridden one.

When I give my Zero a workout in the twisties, I can hear the tires working on the asphalt!

Also, 116 lb*ft of torque, RIGHT NOW!

(BTW that electric Duc causing all the stir here is powered by Zero.)
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Torque is good!
I have had that idea, that it is like the hand of God pushing you forward.
Urgently.
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Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to ride one!
Spensersdad, how is the Zero SR??

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And I thought it was the power of magnets pulling you forward... silly me
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Of the potential offerings manufacturers have(that I have seen at least), they all seem to be direct challenge to litre bikes; the biggest, the fastest, et al. This makes sense of course, its gotta be better than the best, or its no good. A technological regression if you will. The Twin killed the Single, and Ducati didn't look back.
I don't really see the direct challenge to litre bikes.....?

Currently manufacturers of BIG engined bikes (and cars) are just squeezing the last few drops of milk from a dying cow, or if you will, cashing in before the big engine show is over, the game is up and they know it.

With the new ISA (Intelligent Speed Assistance) legislation coming into effect in 2022 in Europe there will just be no more need for big fast bikes (or cars), seriously, who is gonna spend $20k+ on a 200hp bike if said bike is forced by GPS to keep to the speed limit and records every move the rider makes on the black box underneath the seat.

Of course the legislators are doing this in the name of road safety but it also perfectly tracks the new green narrative, all those new greener smaller engines (forced to keep to speed limits) followed by more and more electrics is going to be so much cleaner......, they say.......

NO, I think we will just need to get use to it, the time of the (big) combustion engine is over, the only people still insisting on big gas burners are stubborn stupid consumers and the manufacturers that profit of off their stupidity.

That been said, the current lineup of new bikes on offer leaves very little to be desired, seems that every manufacturer has shares in the plastic recycling industry, now they are starting to add wings on everything with 2 wheels for g_d sakes, maybe they all copied some code from Boeing, big ass engines with small little wingies.....

I would love to buy a new bike but the more I Iook at it the more I think my next bike will be an electric, what besides showing of can I do with a 200hp 1000cc motorcycle anyway?
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if said bike is forced by GPS to keep to the speed limit and records every move the rider makes on the black box underneath the seat.
I don't want to live in that world.
If I was young I would probably be on the warpath against it. Die mofos die!
Regardless of the odds of winning.
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Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to ride one!
Spensersdad, how is the Zero SR??
My SR is fabulous! Very compact, about like a first gen. Suzuki SV650, nice upright riding position. Handling is very sharp, especially after climbing off the rangy Ducati. It is heavy for its size, but I only notice the weight when wheeling it around, or lifting it off of the side stand.

Top speed is limited to a little over 100 mph, so itís not fast, but itís very very quick. Iím pretty sure it would run away and hide from my ST3 or my VFR up to about 70 or 80.

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