As we are in the middle of turn and the front tire is at its limit. Lets say its a left hand turn. To stand the bike up, we must countersteer left, but since the front tire is at the limit, that would make it go over the limit and slip ( since we are asking it to tighten the line even though momentarily). Is this true, or is there something wrong with my logic?
Thanks in advance
Sorry for not getting back to you on this, I think my notifications for the forum went South!
To answer: "The limit" is an interesting idea--but as we've discovered--not so easy to define. Someone or some tech advance always comes along and blows "the limit" out of the water. We could examine your question in any number of ways. The idea that you would momentarily be going over the limit by counter steering the bike back up would be analogous with riding, at the limit, over a 1 foot wide wet strip that was across the road. The tire circumference is about 83" on a 200 X 60 X 17 rear tire, about 7 feet of rubber. Is that enough to make the bike slide out? Maybe, but only maybe. Almost too many factors to list, like suspension, tire condition, pavement grip, rider inputs, etc., etc. Then, too, because the bike will begin to come up out of its lean, there is an immediate reduction of grip demand.
There is an interesting phenomena that can occur "at the limit" where turning the front wheel in creates a pushing (slightly sliding) front wheel. The resistance created by the 'pushing' acts as a pivot point and jacks the back end around, outward, pointing the bike into the corner. This is also standard technique for flat trackers to help get the bike turned. It isn't something that works everywhere and you really do have to be right close to the limit of lean AND be willing to have the back end come around (slide).
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