Key Question for 1100s

[twowheel]

I just bought an 1100s Hypermotard. It has only one black key and no key card. I purchased a blank Ducati key and had it cut to match.

I was told I need to now program the new key? Is this done on the bike or do I need a Ducati dealer to do this? What is needed to make the second key work?

Thanks.

[johnnie27]

Originally Posted by twowheel

I just bought an 1100s Hypermotard. It has only one black key and no key card. I purchased a blank Ducati key and had it cut to match.

I was told I need to now program the new key? Is this done on the bike or do I need a Ducati dealer to do this? What is needed to make the second key work?

Thanks.

no sure i got 2 keys with mine, it would take 15 seconds to call the dealer and ask, thats what i would do matey

[twowheel]

Originally Posted by johnnie27

no sure i got 2 keys with mine, it would take 15 seconds to call the dealer and ask, thats what i would do matey

Yes. but I thought that if it was a simple thing to do someone could say.

[lelenb]

They usually need the key card number to program the key. I don't know if they can read one key to program the other. The dealer can tell you, though sometimes they say no because it is the simple answer. The cut blank key might be worthless without the code, but I have seen that some places that make keys can now copy chipped keys. It might be worth a try to run down to give it a try.

[pgeller]

The code card has a code to allow you to override the immoilizer and start the bike. It is not convenient to do this regularly.

New, unprogrammed black keys will not be recognized by the immobilizer systems and will not allow the bike to start. You need the original RED key that was supplied with the bike to program replacement BLACK keys. Your dealer may have kept this key. It is the first key the immoboilizer saw after power up and must be used whenever any component of the immobilizer system (dash, ECU, and black keys) is replaced. Here's the procedure from the service manual:

Programming the immobilizer

In the event of replacement of one or more components of the immobilizer system (e.g. the black keys, the decoder, or the engine control unit), the parts in question must be programmed. To perform this operation, proceed as follows:
check that the motorcycle battery terminals are correctly connected and that the battery is in perfect condition.

Prepare the red key and the black keys.

Insert the red key (3) in the ignition lock (4).

When a key is inserted in the ignition lock, always keep the other two keys well away from the lock to avoid the risk of interference with the programming procedure.

Set the key to the ON position to switch on the instrument panel.

Before performing this action, ensure that the ignition lock remains in the OFF position for at least thirty seconds after inserting the key. The instrument panel multifunction display (5) will show the number of keys inserted (“1” in this case) and start a countdown from 30 to 0.

Wait until the countdown starts and before it reaches zero (approx. 3 seconds) turn the key to the OFF position.

Display (5) will now show a countdown starting from 150.

Before this countdown reaches zero (15 seconds): remove the red key, insert one of the black keys (6) and turn the switch to “ON”. Display (5) will show the number of keys inserted (“2” in this case) and start a countdown from 30 to 0.

Make sure the countdown has started and before it reaches zero (approx. 3 seconds) turn the key to the OFF position.

Display (5) will now show a countdown starting from 150.

Before this countdown reaches zero (15 seconds): remove the black key, insert the other black key (6) and turn the ignition switch to “ON”.

Display (5) will show the number of keys inserted (“3” in this case) and start a countdown from 30 to 0.

Make sure the countdown has started and before it reaches zero (approx. 3 seconds), turn the key to the OFF position.

Display (5) will now show a countdown starting from 150.

Before this countdown reaches zero (15 seconds): remove the black key, re-insert the red key (3) and set the ignition switch to “ON”.

Display (5) will show the number of keys inserted (“4” in this case) and start a countdown from 30 to 0.

Make sure the countdown has started and before it reaches zero (approx. 3 seconds), turn the key to the OFF position.

If the programming procedure has been performed successfully up to this point, the immobilizer LED (1) on the rev counter will flash. Display (5) will now show a countdown starting from 150.

Make sure the countdown has started and before it reaches zero (approx. 15 seconds) turn the ignition switch to the “ON” position (using the red key (3)). The display (5) will show the message “On”.

Leave the switch in the “ON” position for at least 5 seconds (but no longer than 15 seconds) to allow data to be transferred from the instrument panel to the engine ECU and then turn the switch to “OFF”.

To terminate the programming procedure wait for at least 10 seconds before turning the ignition key to “ON” again.

At this point the system (instrument panel and control unit) has been fully programmed.

Check that the immobilizer system has been correctly programmed (see following paragraphs) and then reattach the three keys to the kering (7).

For correct immobilizer programming, the time limits indicated in the procedure must be strictly observed.

If the display (5) shows the message “OFF” during the procedure, this indicates that the programming routine has been aborted.


Good luck.

pg
DD

[webspoke]

The hyper does not have a red key, you do need the code card , or the metal code tag to program new keys or reset the immobilizer. I don't know if the dealer can override this.

[lelenb]

generally they have to order the key pre-programmed from Ducati using the key code.

[Quackzilla]

The instrument panel features a service menu that should be used only by the dealer, in case of real need.
To enter this service menu, hold button (MODE) pressed in position A "s" and at the same time turn the key from Off to On.

Pressing button (MODE) in position A “s“ or B “t“ the available functions are displayed one after the other.
After enabling functions and/or changing settings, turn the key from ON to OFF to store any changes.
Upon the following Key-On, the new settings will apply.
This menu features three functions:
Immobilizer Reprogramming (PRO 0000);
Unit of measurement setting for displayed values (SET UNIT);
"Manual" movement of the exhaust butterfly valve (SET EXVL);
Rear indicators setting (SET INDIC).

Immobilizer Reprogramming

This function allows for the reprogramming of the Immobilizer System in case one or both keys are missing/lost or damaged.
To view this function, access the "Service Menu" and enter the "Pro" page.
This function shows a default "00000" code; press button (1) in position B "t" for 3 seconds to access the electronic code entry procedure (code can be found on CODE CARD).

Entering the code:
the first digit on the left starts flashing;
each time you press the button in position B "t", the digit will increase by one unit per second;
if you press the button in position A "s", you will move to the second digit, which will start to flash. Each time you press the button in position B "t", the digit will increase by one unit per second;
If you press the button in position A "s", you will move to the third digit, which will start to flash. Each time you press the button in position B "t", the digit will increase by one unit per second;
if you press the button in position A "s", you will move to the fourth digit, which will start to flash. Each time you press the button in position B "t", the digit will increase by one unit per second;
if you press the button in position A "s", you will move to the fifth digit, which will start to flash. Each time you press the button in position B "t", the digit will increase by one unit per second;
press the button in position A "s" to confirm the code.
If code is incorrect, the display will again show the default code "00000". A wrong code can be entered countless times.
If the code is correct, "Pro." wording and the entered code will flash; now take the key to Off.
From this moment on, the Immobilizer System is waiting to be Reprogrammed with the new key (or keys); upon the following Key-On it will be necessary to carry out a key programming procedure using the procedure described under "Programming the immobilizer".
Note
During this stage the Immobilizer System disables engine starting until keys are reprogrammed.

Code Card is missing
Since the Electronic Code indicated on the CODE CARD is no longer available, it will not be possible to:
reprogram the Immobilizer System in case one or both keys are lost/missing;
temporarily "override" the system in case of a fault to the Immobilizer System.
To restore System normal operation it will be necessary to change the KEY SET (2 black keys + new CODE CARD) and the Instrument panel and then perform a new Immobilizer Programming.

One key is missing
After buying a new key, it is necessary to carry out a Reprogramming procedure (entering the code indicated on the CODE CARD) with the new key and the existing key (not lost/missing).

Both keys are missing
After buying two new keys, it is necessary to carry out a Reprogramming procedure (entering the code indicated on the CODE CARD) with the new keys.

Replacing the locks set (new locks + new Code Card + new keys)
After installing the new locks set, use the two new keys to Reprogram the system (entering the electronic code indicated on the old CODE CARD).

Keep the new CODE CARD in a safe place since it could become “active” if the Instrument panel is replaced in the future and then needs a new progrmming procedure.
Instrument panel replacement

After buying the new instrument panel, perform a normal "Programming" of the Immobilizer System.
Instrument panel replacement after one or both keys were changed
For this special case, for the whole Immobilizer System to work correctly, before Programming the Immobilizer it is necessary to change the KEY SET as well (2 black keys + new CODE CARD).
If the new instrument panel is programmed with the existing keys, previously replaced, the System programming will be successful and will allow engine starting but the Electronic code on the CODE CARD will no longer allow you to:
reprogram the Immobilizer System in case one or both keys are lost/missing;
temporarily "override" the system in case of a fault to the Immobilizer System.

Programming the immobilizer
This instrument panel function allows for Immobilizer System programming.
Note
It is possible to store only 2 keys.

Insert KEY 1 (one of the two black keys) and turn it from Off to On;
turn key to Off within 3 seconds;
within 15 seconds, insert KEY 2 (the other black key) and turn it from Off to On;
turn key to Off within 3 seconds;
within 15 seconds, insert again KEY X (either Key 1 or Key 2, it does not matter) and turn it from Off to On.

If the procedure is successful, the Dashboard will display "PROG" fixed for 3 seconds and then go back to normal display.

Programming aborted:
if the 3-second countdown after Key-On, the 15-second countdown after Key-Off reach zero or if programming procedure is incorrect, the Dashboard aborts the programming and will display "OFF" for 3 seconds and then go back to normal display.

Caution
During the programming procedure, the Dashboard not only stores the key codes, but detects two "electronic" codes after KEY 1 (first black key inserted) and KEY 2 (second black key inserted) are inserted.

In case the Immobilizer is reprogrammed, the key codes are deleted and replaced by the new codes of the new keys; while the two "electronic" codes are forever stored with no chance to delete or overwrite them.
The electronic code indicated on the CODE CARD corresponds to one of the two electronic codes and will be used for the procedures of Immobilizer Recovery and Immobilizer Reprogramming.

[twowheel]

So, the answer is:

If you only have a black original key for your bike you can have a duplicate key made from your original. You do not need a card code.

It costs around $85 for the duplicate key and the programming. You send in your key and get a duplicate sent back with your original. Done.

[nikkihyperr]

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