Evo SP fork - Ducati.ms

1198freak · Sep 6th, 2010, 2:37 am

Evo SP owners, Is the Evo SP fork better than the previous hyper forks? Or does it have the same "vague feeling", overdamped/underdamped issues? I'm buying an Evo SP and want to know if I need to budget for a cartridge kit. Only mods I plan on doing are possibly the cartridge kit, the Termi 2 into 1 full system (TPS and fuel trim), and a fender eliminator. Bike will be used fairly aggressively around town and canyon riding, maybe a few track days a year or so. I want it to handle and perform, it won't be a cruiser.

Monstaman · Sep 6th, 2010, 2:53 am

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Originally Posted by 1198freak

Evo SP owners, Is the Evo SP fork better than the previous hyper forks? Or does it have the same "vague feeling", overdamped/underdamped issues? .

Prep for the worst ... anything above that is coffee money for Starbucks.

nitsuj8686 · Sep 6th, 2010, 9:09 am

From my chat with all the ducati and ohlins guys at moto gp last weekend. It still sucks. "They have to cut a corner somewhere with a price point that low"

disgo duc · Sep 6th, 2010, 3:00 pm

heard the same...going to have to go w/ohlins...but it makes a world of difference.

oalvarez · Sep 6th, 2010, 3:06 pm

remember, the EVO SP forks have additional travel versus its Hyper counterparts which might make a difference in parts compatibility.

apessino · Sep 6th, 2010, 4:43 pm

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Originally Posted by nitsuj8686

From my chat with all the ducati and ohlins guys at moto gp last weekend. It still sucks. "They have to cut a corner somewhere with a price point that low"

He thinks the EVO SP price point is low?

apessino · Sep 6th, 2010, 4:47 pm

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Originally Posted by 1198freak

Evo SP owners, Is the Evo SP fork better than the previous hyper forks? Or does it have the same "vague feeling", overdamped/underdamped issues? I'm buying an Evo SP and want to know if I need to budget for a cartridge kit. Only mods I plan on doing are possibly the cartridge kit, the Termi 2 into 1 full system (TPS and fuel trim), and a fender eliminator. Bike will be used fairly aggressively around town and canyon riding, maybe a few track days a year or so. I want it to handle and perform, it won't be a cruiser.

I test rode both the EVO and the EVO SP, they are night and day. The revised geometry and the front end make all the difference. In fact, I don't think I would have bought the base EVO, but I am getting my SP in October.

Every review I have seen more or less agrees on the above. Here's the always insightful Kevin Ash's take on it:

http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/du...otard-1100-evo

oalvarez · Sep 6th, 2010, 5:59 pm

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Originally Posted by apessino

Every review I have seen more or less agrees on the above. Here's the always insightful Kevin Ash's take on it:

http://www.ashonbikes.com/content/du...otard-1100-evo

i don't get it. he states that he "has never ridden a bike of this type" but then speaks as though he has. maybe i'm mis-reading the passage?

have a look:

"I took the SP out first (that’s the white one in the images) and for the first time on a bike of this type immediately felt at home and comfortable on it. The steering is more precise and now the bike goes exactly where you point it both under braking and with the power on, and while it still responds eagerly to bar pressure it no longer feels flighty. "

johnnie27 · Sep 6th, 2010, 6:26 pm

i have the EVO SP....i like to think i push it pretty hard , raced lots of mx (about 1,000,000 times worse than Bubba) and some supermotard SXV550..kart track club day stuff...the front fork on the ape even for my light 182Lbs needed lots of work to get it to behave.(althogh that bike spend most of its lap on the back wheel)..triple clamps etc

i think as an aggressive rode bike...i find the bumpiest gravel lined back road , and farking violate it best i can ... i love the feedback from the front end....no agressive rebound mid bump , no bottoming out ...and haven't even fiddled with the settings yet

only ridden 350 miles will start to have a fiddle once i am settled in..right now just hanging on and enjoying the motion sickness ...man those front brakes...ezhhhhhhh

there are always better forks i spose , just as a R1 is easier to set up than a 1098..but i love my SP..enjoy the hunt johnnie

Monstaman · Sep 6th, 2010, 7:04 pm

You just need a Kosher Translation Machine

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Originally Posted by oalvarez

i don't get it. he states that he "has never ridden a bike of this type" but then speaks as though he has. maybe i'm mis-reading the passage?

have a look:

"I took the SP out first (that’s the white one in the images) and for the first time on a bike of this type immediately felt at home and comfortable on it because Ducati are paying me to say this. The steering is more precise andnow the bike goes exactly where you point it both under braking and with the power on, and while it still responds eagerly to bar pressure it no longer feels flighty as my sponsorship cheque should arrive later today. "

Manufacturers are quite blatantly handing out incentives to those who will endorse their product (not just Ducati either), see the KTM990SMR v Ducati SP Evo thread not to long ago.

I don't think you can trust too many of these guys until you get the real oil from ground zero and check it out in person, in this case see the cartridges first hand and compare.