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Aug 26th, 2010, 6:27 pm
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Location: Milton, PA, USA
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possible gas analyzer solution?
Has anyone or do they know if it is possible to use a product like an innovate wideband 02 sensor to adjust fuel trim?
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/lc1.php
I was looking over the gastester and realize that the price is close. I could also use the innovate product to tune my wrx and it is much easier to justify the expenditure if I can use it on multiple applications.
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Aug 26th, 2010, 11:20 pm
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Eat, sleep, play!
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Haven't used the LC-1 but it looks pretty good and has more capability/accuracy than the cheapo Gunson Gastester. With a data logger you could even monitor your A/F ratio while you ride. Don't know if it will fit the exhaust bung, but you should be able to check that out by asking Innovate. Worth looking into.
You will still need a VDSTS tool to actually adjust the fuel trim on your DP ECU.
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Aug 26th, 2010, 11:27 pm
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Blame the universe not the tank!
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Using the WB sensor may well be a solution, but you get into a problem if you have an ECU that requires the NB sensor to be in place.
You can build a copper tube probe for the sensor. I think Innovate mentions this on the website... had not been there in a while.
I've had good results with the Gunsen Gastester.
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Aug 26th, 2010, 11:44 pm
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don't know about using it on the Hyper, but i've used the LC-1 on a few cars that i've done some tuning to.
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Aug 31st, 2010, 9:28 pm
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I may look into this idea this off season. I will report back.
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02 Suzuki TL1000-R RIP baby
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Aug 31st, 2010, 9:50 pm
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I've used an Innovate LM2 Duo meter on three of my Ducatis, a 749s, MTS1000, and an M900. Works great. You just need to have bungs welded in to the header pipes. I would definitely go with a two sensor unit (like the LM2) vs a single sensor meter as it makes adjusting/comparing cylinders in real time a no-brainer.
BTW, Ive used it with and without a PCIII installed. Either way, I found it quite invaluable if you like doing your own fuel injection tuning. I've also done the data logging while riding (on the PCIII equipped MTS1000) and was able to make an incredibly smooth running map for the lower/mid RPM range I typically found myself in while riding on the street.
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Last edited by FlyingQ; Aug 31st, 2010 at 9:56 pm.
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Aug 31st, 2010, 10:14 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingQ
I've used an Innovate LM2 Duo meter on three of my Ducatis, a 749s, MTS1000, and an M900. Works great. You just need to have bungs welded in to the header pipes. I would definitely go with a two sensor unit (like the LM2) vs a single sensor meter as it makes adjusting/comparing cylinders in real time a no-brainer.
BTW, Ive used it with and without a PCIII installed. Either way, I found it quite invaluable if you like doing your own fuel injection tuning. I've also done the data logging while riding (on the PCIII equipped MTS1000) and was able to make an incredibly smooth running map for the lower/mid RPM range I typically found myself in while riding on the street.
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Short of having a dyno in your garage, the LM2 is the ultimate solution. Maybe even better than a dyno since you are logging real world conditions for each cylinder.
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-2005 CRF170R
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Sep 1st, 2010, 2:32 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dukepilot
Short of having a dyno in your garage, the LM2 is the ultimate solution. Maybe even better than a dyno since you are logging real world conditions for each cylinder.
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I am very happy with my pcv and auto tune, this adjusts in real time as well.
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