S shock - Ducati.ms

jryden · Jul 18th, 2010, 8:24 am

Does anyone know if an S(P) shock will bolt up to a 796 unmodified?

singlefin · Jul 18th, 2010, 10:47 am

It will, the only real difference is the adjustable tie-rod on the S/SP model besides the Olhins shock.

You gonna leave the front forks oem?

jryden · Jul 18th, 2010, 11:30 am

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It will, the only real difference is the adjustable tie-rod on the S/SP model besides the Olhins shock.

You gonna leave the front forks oem?

Absolutely not

But as far as I can tell options for the 796 forks are even more limited than the shock, for now at least?

singlefin · Jul 18th, 2010, 12:13 pm

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Absolutely not

But as far as I can tell options for the 796 forks are even more limited than the shock, for now at least?

Find some 1100 or 1100S front forks and have them reworked is an option. There are some on ebay from time to time.

freezer16801 · Jul 18th, 2010, 2:59 pm

A much better option in my opinion would be to find a Sachs shock from a standard hyper and send it away to be revalved and resprung. I'd also find an adjustable rod while you are at it. There are other models of bikes besides hypers that use the adjustable rod. I believe the one I bought was from a 916???

A rebuilt Sachs for your weight would be better than a cookie cutter low-grade ohlins.

I have an ohlins on my track bike and had one on my TLR. Both were improvements over stock, but were dramatically improved once they were professionally rebuilt by a suspension shop. I would rate my sachs standard model hyper shock as highly as my ohlins that I use on my track bike. Keep in mind the hyper doesn't do as much track duty as my track bike and could possibly fade with track usage.

Just because it says ohlins, doesn't mean that it is automatically better. The valving, correct spring rate, and setup is what is the most important.

Also if you are going to get 1100 forks... try to get the new KYB's if possible. The marzoch's are improved with fluid level and viscocity changes along with correct spring rates, but are still not that good compared to other OEM forks that I've used on other bikes.

Hell, my standard mounted (non-inverted) 43 mm 03 R6 forks are far better than the 50 mm inverted marzoch's on my hyper. Even after work on both sets of forks.

I hope all this helps.

jryden · Jul 18th, 2010, 4:24 pm

Some very valid points there freezer.

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A much better option in my opinion would be to find a Sachs shock from a standard hyper and send it away to be revalved and resprung. I'd also find an adjustable rod while you are at it. There are other models of bikes besides hypers that use the adjustable rod. I believe the one I bought was from a 916???

Is there a point to the adjustable rods other than playing with seat height?

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A rebuilt Sachs for your weight would be better than a cookie cutter low-grade ohlins.

This is true, and I was looking to have that done to the Ohlins anyway. What I was mostly after with the Ohlins shock is the compression adjustability. If the price is right on a revalve and respring job on the stock Sachs shock I could see myself settling for that possibly. I didn't even know the Sachs shock is serviceable. Does anyone have any suggestions on reputable shops that work on Sachs shocks?

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Also if you are going to get 1100 forks... try to get the new KYB's if possible. The marzoch's are improved with fluid level and viscocity changes along with correct spring rates, but are still not that good compared to other OEM forks that I've used on other bikes.

I think I'd be content playing with the oil and springs with correct spring rate on the stock 796 forks, but as far as I can tell you can't even get different springs for these forks (yet)? Anyone know differently?

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I hope all this helps.

It's very helpful and much appreciated!

freezer16801 · Jul 18th, 2010, 4:34 pm

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Some very valid points there freezer.

Is there a point to the adjustable rods other than playing with seat height?

This is true, and I was looking to have that done to the Ohlins anyway. What I was mostly after with the Ohlins shock is the compression adjustability. If the price is right on a revalve and respring job on the stock Sachs shock I could see myself settling for that possibly. I didn't even know the Sachs shock is serviceable. Does anyone have any suggestions on reputable shops that work on Sachs shocks?

I think I'd be content playing with the oil and springs with correct spring rate on the stock 796 forks, but as far as I can tell you can't even get different springs for these forks (yet)? Anyone know differently?

I would call racetech to see if they have anything they can make for you. They made a set of springs for my 1100 after I gave them a call.

It's very helpful and much appreciated!

playing with ride height in the rear can help to solve some handling issues like slow turning, etc. You will find that you can get on the gas much sooner when you add a bit of ride height in the rear. A bit more ride height can also help the bike to turn in quicker. Too much and the bike becomes unstable.

When my sachs returned from traxxion dynamics (they are awesome, btw), they had it remarkably set perfectly. I installed it and pissed around with less and more and eventually put the damn thing right back where they had it set. Amazing! I basically have a huge range of compression and rebound adjustment available. They also installed a nice penske style preload adjuster.

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I would call racetech to see if they have anything they can make for you. They made a set of springs for my 1100 after I gave them a call.