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May 25th, 2010, 4:50 pm
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Tire pressure
Yes I know this has been beat to death on every motorcycle forum there is. Don't believe me, just google it.
What is the recommended track day tire cold pressures for the Michelin Pilot Power 2CTs? I have seen everything from 29psi to 37 psi. Usually the lower pressures are for track specific stiffer sidewall tires and the higher pressures are for the more compliant road tires (that might be just ok for a track day) with a more flexible sidewall.
Where does the PP 2CT fit in? Like 29f/30r or at the top end 36/36?
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May 25th, 2010, 10:13 pm
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I would be 30 front and rear.
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May 25th, 2010, 11:17 pm
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I've been running Pilot Road 2CT's. I weigh about 200lbs geared-up. I live and ride in a temperate climate: in the 50's most of the time and ride to warmer area's in the 80's and 90's. I check/fill the tires when they're cold. I run 36psi in the rear and 33psi in the front. They're superb 'sport-touring' tires. I wouldn't take them on the track. I rode in the rain a couple weeks ago and was laughing at how much traction they had. More confident on them in the wet than I was on the stock Bridgestones (my Hyper is not an "S"). Anyhow, not to deviate... I'm going to go with the Pirelli Diablo Corsa III's for the warmer months. I LOVE them. Ran them on my Buell and they're the OEM on the "S" (for good reason). There's my two (non-sense) cents. :-D
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May 25th, 2010, 11:30 pm
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I've run the 2CT as my "intermediate" race tire in years past and have always run 30 PSI front and rear at the track. I've never had any issues with these tires on track at this pressure.
As a side note, I tend to run the 2CT up front and get a standard Pilot Power rear, durability is better and once you get them warm there is PLENTY of side grip on the standard tire.
Have fun!
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May 26th, 2010, 12:09 am
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Never on the track with the PP 2CTs, but I ran 31/32 F and 33/34 R and they ran great all the time an wore pretty well. I might go down a pound or so for track use, but these tires have no problem warming up and sticking.
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May 26th, 2010, 3:24 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jboothe
Yes I know this has been beat to death on every motorcycle forum there is. Don't believe me, just google it.
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Surely there's still room for a bit more beating?
I've heard the Michelins are really cranky with pressures, dunno really, because I'm anal about it, and have run Michies many times, but have spent a shit load of $$$ on good equipment to always have my hoops in check before I swing the leg over. Every time...
It's the first thing I do before a ride, and one of the main things I like to have right.
For the track, well I'd first judge the equipment your using to determine if your pressures are that correct, after that, stick to the 2psi rule front to rear, and run them slightly lower. Say 30F 32R.
Then... stop cock spanking about and get out there and don't blame the damn tyre pressures on your inadequate riding...
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May 26th, 2010, 7:16 am
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Thanks for the help. Sounds like around 30 psi is going to work.
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Originally Posted by kedo
They're superb 'sport-touring' tires. I wouldn't take them on the track.
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That's an interesting take. I hadn't really heard that before. In fact, I bought them for the occasional track day. Not as good as the Power series but everything I read was that they were darn good on the track. But it is good to know how well they do in the wet.
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Originally Posted by Tard
Surely there's still room for a bit more beating?
Then... stop cock spanking about and get out there and don't blame the damn tyre pressures on your inadequate riding... 
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Why not?!?!  I have to have something to blame my poor riding on!
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May 26th, 2010, 11:35 am
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There's not a right and wrong....
You should contact someone at Michelin. A tech could be very helpful.
Your retailer may be able to give you a rep contact email.
Down to your weight, bike weight, tarmac temp and if you're super dialed (hardly anyone on a hyper will be enough for it to matter) suspension. settings. But a rep can give yo the general info based on temp and total weight.
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May 26th, 2010, 10:44 pm
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I dont have may miles on my hyper with the 2ct's but have always ran 30-32 psi on my other bikes an had good luck but play with it from 30-35 and see how it feels a wear to each his own everybody seems to like a diffrent feel.
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May 27th, 2010, 3:44 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frustration
There's not a right and wrong....
You should contact someone at Michelin. A tech could be very helpful.
Your retailer may be able to give you a rep contact email.
Down to your weight, bike weight, tarmac temp and if you're super dialed (hardly anyone on a hyper will be enough for it to matter) suspension. settings. But a rep can give yo the general info based on temp and total weight.
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This is good info except that the most important factor will be the tire temp when up to operating temperature. Too cool and you need to drop some psi, too hot and you need to add some psi.
Your Michelin Tire Rep should be able to give you the APPROXIMATE air pressures as well as the correct operating temp of the tires. The air pressures will change depending on all the factors that Frustration listed above and then only really need to be fine tuned with the pressure at operating temp to bring the tire to it's optimal.
.....or you could just not really care that much and run about 31f, 30r and call it a day....
Dave
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