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Old Oct 9th, 2009, 9:06 pm   #1 (permalink)
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I just had the cam timing adjusted. Stock is 115 in lobe center. I had my cams adjusted to 112 in lobe center.

It does make a difference. Free (almost) horse power.

Highly recommended.

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Old Oct 9th, 2009, 9:56 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I just had the cam timing adjusted. Stock is 115 in lobe center. I had my cams adjusted to 112 in lobe center.

It does make a difference. Free (almost) horse power.

Highly recommended.

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You should have dynoed before & after, just to be sure. Aloha Alex
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You should have dynoed before & after, just to be sure. Aloha Alex
no need ... it was a pig before ... and now it is a slightly faster pig
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no need ... it was a pig before ... and now it is a slightly faster pig
Johnny Minchia! At least I ride my pig...

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Only your dyno knows for sure...

Hmmm...

If there is truly a diiference, I wonder whether you're feeling an improvement in horsepower or torque?

Where in the RPM range do you perceive an improvement?
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Retarding cam timing generally shifts the power band higher in the RPM range. Unless the timing was way off from the factory, adjusting timing in itself will only shift and not significantly increase max power.
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Retarding cam timing generally shifts the power band higher in the RPM range. Unless the timing was way off from the factory, adjusting timing in itself will only shift and not significantly increase max power.
Well, it's not really "retarding". As a matter of fact is advancing: You are measuring in lobe center.

My cams were 118 whereas stock should be 115. So they were 3° retarded.

Advancing them to 112, the engine is getting more fuel from intake valve, hence the increased performance.

@ Bill: you can feel the difference across the spectrum, low to high RPM range. It does feel like a different bike to me now.
@ Alex: I know, I should have dynoed it. Maybe this can be your next project? ;-)

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Francesco, you're right, you advanced the cams. I'm directionally impaired! More info on cam timing here... http://www.bikeboy.org/camtime2v.html

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Well, it's not really "retarding". As a matter of fact is advancing: You are measuring in lobe center.

My cams were 118 whereas stock should be 115. So they were 3° retarded.

Advancing them to 112, the engine is getting more fuel from intake valve, hence the increased performance.

@ Bill: you can feel the difference across the spectrum, low to high RPM range. It does feel like a different bike to me now.
@ Alex: I know, I should have dynoed it. Maybe this can be your next project? ;-)

Francesco

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Francesco, you're right, you advanced the cams. I'm directionally impaired! More info on cam timing here... http://www.bikeboy.org/camtime2v.html
Very interesting reading.... The Black Mystic Art of Cam Timing!

Thanks for the link!

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