my hypertard with race cams is ready ...

[johnchypermotard]

just got a phone call from nichols ... they advised that the racing cams install went well, and according to dyno run, gained 5HP on top end (based on previous dyno run prior to racing cams install).

cams were set to "stock" degree settings, as according to bruce myers, degreeing the cams only provides increases when being installed in ported heads. as the heads on my hypertard are stock at present, we went with "stock" degree settings.

will pick up the bike tomorrow in am, and get a copy of the dyno run print out to post here.

ciao,
johnc

[hyprduc]

Sweet! I like the cams but the biggest gain came from having the power commander mapped.

Cheers!

[CodeRed]

How was the rest of the powerband? Are the cams relatively mild that DP provides? Look forward to the dyno results...

[johnchypermotard]

will know tomorrow once i pick the hypertard up.

i view dyno runs as simply a measurement tool, used when making mods ... as i don't "ride" on the dyno, i value actual riding on the track and road as the real measure of any mod.

that said, terblanche has advised that the race cams were actually supposed to be installed as "stock" from the factory ... but the production engineers overruled it, and instead installed milder cams. so, if this is true, my hypertard will now provide the power it was designed for.

more on this after i pick the hypertard up tomorrow.

ciao,
johnc

Originally Posted by CodeRed

How was the rest of the powerband? Are the cams relatively mild that DP provides? Look forward to the dyno results...

[bullet3z]

Very interested to know how much they charged for the cam install? Also did you get the cam kit from them or from a 3rd person? While we are at it with all these questions, did you also install the DP cam chip? Or are you running some other type of programmer?

Sorry for all the ?'s.

[johnchypermotard]

Originally Posted by bullet3z

Very interested to know how much they charged for the cam install?

will know tomorrow ... and will advise.

Originally Posted by bullet3z

Also did you get the cam kit from them or from a 3rd person?

did not purchase the DP cam kit from them. purchased from other company.

Originally Posted by bullet3z

While we are at it with all these questions, did you also install the DP cam chip?

have had the DP cams ecu installed for almost a year now ... have been using it with the termi 2-1 full system.

Originally Posted by bullet3z

Or are you running some other type of programmer?

no other ecu or programming product.

Originally Posted by bullet3z

Sorry for all the ?'s.

from one of my fav john candy movies, uncle buck:

Miles: Where do you live?
Buck: In the city.
Miles: You have a house?
Buck: Apartment.
Miles: Own or rent?
Buck: Rent.
Miles: What do you do for a living?
Buck: Lots of things.
Miles: Where's your office?
Buck: I don't have one.
Miles: How come?
Buck: I don't need one.
Miles: Where's your wife?
Buck: Don't have one.
Miles: How come?
Buck: It's a long story.
Miles: You have kids?
Buck: No I don't.
Miles: How come?
Buck: It's an even longer story.
Miles: Are you my Dad's brother?
Buck: What's your record for consecutive questions asked?
Miles: 38.
Buck: I'm your Dad's brother alright.
Miles: You have much more hair in your nose than my Dad.
Buck: How nice of you to notice.
Miles: I'm a kid - that's my job.

[johnchypermotard]

dyno results ...

with DP race cams, SP race cams ECU and DP termi 2-1 full exhaust system, illustrated in dyno run chart with blue for HP and red for torque:

94 HP
75 ft-lbs torque

previous dyno run without DP race cams, but with DP race cams ECU and DP termi 2-1 full exhaust system, illustrated in dyno run chart with red for HP and blue for torque.

cost for installation and degreeing of DP race cams: $112.00 (1.5 hours shop time) ... note: had nichols install the DP race cams at same time as 15,000 mile service, so they already had removed all the plastics and fuel tank. if your going to have the DP race cams installed on their own, without a valve inspection service, expext a shop to bill more time, as getting to the cams requires a LOT of stuff to be removed and then replaced.


ride home analysis of dp race cams:

• LOTS more power from 7,000 rpm up ... keeps pulling like a freight train compared to stock cams
• the lessened HP below 7,000 rpm makes the power band more manageable imho ... should be better for maintenance throttle in mid corner, which should make the bike easier to ride faster

i will be installing a nichols lightened flywheel in the next round or upgrades ... this should allow the motor to spin up faster/quicker, which will improve any loss in low end/mid range that the race cams have induced.

[motopix]

That chart and your color guide is confusing as hell:

cams: blue-hp, red-torque
no cams: red-hp, blue-torque

[hbliam]

Originally Posted by johnchypermotard

dyno results ...
[*]the lessened HP below 7,000 rpm makes the power band more manageable imho ... should be better for maintenance throttle in mid corner, which should make the bike easier to ride faster

This is why I'm not doing the race cams. Less real world power in exchange for more top end. I rarely need the top end and don't find the power as is to be unmanageable.

[johnchypermotard]

Originally Posted by motopix

That chart and your color guide is confusing as hell:

cams: blue-hp, red-torque
no cams: red-hp, blue-torque

yup ... i didn't pick the colors