Beast R intakes with CA-Cycleworks 6.4gal tank - Ducati.ms

reynolds_brad · Aug 19th, 2009, 10:21 pm

Hey Just wondering if there is anyone out there running the big CA Cycleworks tank with the TPO Beast R intake/filter setup. I was thinking of doing this combo and i just want to make sure that there isnt any fitment issues.

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**Da_Bull** · Aug 20th, 2009, 12:03 am

I asked Chris from CA Cycleworks this question point blank, in person. He said that the big tank won't work with the Beast R. At a buy in of $700 I wasn't willing to try and prove him wrong...

Ducshop · Aug 20th, 2009, 7:26 am

Our stacks wont fit with that tank either, there is only room for the short pod filters that I think come with the tank, the tank is too big imo, 4.5 gal would have been plenty and would have left room for the TPO's or our stacks.

HyperGirl · Aug 20th, 2009, 11:29 am

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Originally Posted by Ducshop

...the tank is too big imo, 4.5 gal would have been plenty...

I couldn't agree more! I hope CA-Cycleworks is checking this forum for feedback

wilmar13 · Aug 20th, 2009, 5:08 pm

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Originally Posted by daisyup

I couldn't agree more! I hope CA-Cycleworks is checking this forum for feedback

If anyone has any entrepreneurial spirit, I know of a potential untapped market

I don't get the 6.4 gallon tank either. Who buys the Hyper and needs a 200+mile range? It would be nice to ride with others and be able to go 150ish miles to fill up like most other bikes and not be the lamo that has to stop every time they see a gas station, but not if you have to give up performance to do it.

Maybe it is possible to delete a section of the mold, and have a smaller version, but if so they probably would have done it already. My guess is the only real chance to gain a larger tank that isn't for touring Africa at the cost of losing some pep is if some Hyper owner takes it on as a pet project for themselves and then makes some available to others. I would if I knew anything about tanks.

dave2riff · Aug 20th, 2009, 5:22 pm

Here's what you do if you need to go 150 miles without stopping for gas:
carry a couple 1/2 gallon fuel containers and dump them into the Hyper
after the first 50 miles. Better yet, make some of your friends with
mothership BMWs carry them.

But I agree with what was mentioned-- it IS nice not to have to worry about
stopping at every remote station. But 4.5 gallons would have been enough
for me, too (I didn't buy the aftermarket tank).

lawin · Aug 20th, 2009, 5:22 pm

just an fyi, the two small air filters you get from ca cycleworks with the tank actually net me 2whp up top and did not lose any power or torque at any rpm. i would be curious to see if these other intakes with bigger filters would net more than that given the same variables. the reason it sparks my interest is because my techs and myself thought i would lose power and torque by putting on the filters without a tune. we were all very surprised to see a gain.

dave2riff · Aug 20th, 2009, 5:29 pm

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Originally Posted by lawin

just an fyi, the two small air filters you get from ca cycleworks with the tank actually net me 2whp up top and did not lose any power or torque at any rpm. i would be curious to see if these other intakes with bigger filters would net more than that given the same variables. the reason it sparks my interest is because my techs and myself thought i would lose power and torque by putting on the filters without a tune. we were all very surprised to see a gain.

Well, the stock airbox is just that bad. The Hyper designers admitted in a
press interview that "we played with the size of the airbox until the performance
loss was acceptable". Of course, for the typical enthusiast, no performance
loss is "acceptable".

wilmar13 · Aug 20th, 2009, 5:35 pm

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Originally Posted by dave2riff

Here's what you do if you need to go 150 miles without stopping for gas:
carry a couple 1/2 gallon fuel containers and dump them into the Hyper
after the first 50 miles.

So how are you opening the tank and dumping it in without stopping?

At least for me (and others I ride with) the hassle isn't worrying about running out of fuel, it is needing to stop and refuel...

Maybe a functional, albeit hack-job, solution would be to drill and tap another port into the tank which leads to another tank you could add on? Kind of like an expansion tank. As long as you sealed it so it doesn't leak, why wouldn't that work OK? It isn't something commercially viable for liability and legality reasons, but if you did it yourself why not? Disclaimer: yeah I haven't thought this through, but just trying to come up with alternatives.

lawin · Aug 20th, 2009, 5:45 pm

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Originally Posted by dave2riff

Well, the stock airbox is just that bad. The Hyper designers admitted in a
press interview that "we played with the size of the airbox until the performance
loss was acceptable". Of course, for the typical enthusiast, no performance
loss is "acceptable".

i completely agree, but are the larger "better" intakes netting more power than the two small pods? i don't know and was wondering if that is true. If we can gather some evidence that the bigger "better" intakes net more power then we can whine and moan about the tank, but if the bigger "better" intakes don't offer any more gains than the two small pods from cycleworks then the entire premise that someone needs to put on the bigger "better" intake is completely moot.