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Old Jan 30th, 2009, 8:42 pm   #1 (permalink)
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Hyper right for me?

Okay, I have a 1098. While I love the bike, I can't stand the ergos and while it is a tough pill to swallow, I may have overstayed my welcome on full blown sportbikes. After 30 minutes, my hands go numb and then the bike slowly gets super uncomfortable.

After much debate, I want to trade it for a different Ducati. I love the new Monster but also want to keep my options open, hence the Hyper. Is this bike right for me with the way I ride, which is the following:

-I do a lot of town riding.
-On bike night, I hit the twisties (in Iowa?) then hit the motorcycle scene in Des Moines (which actually is very decent).
-I commute 26 miles one way, all interstate, everyday. On the 1098, I start to get uncomfortable by the time I get there. Is the Hyper better?
-I ride a few times a year to my old hometown which is 3 hours away. I only stop for gas and the 1098 about kills me when I get there. Will a Hyper with the touring screen and different seat be better?
-A couple times a year we do 400+ miles in one day which I trade off with the Harley guys so I can get off the 1098 for a while. I know the tank on the Hyper is small, but how many miles can I expect to ride before I want to jump on a Harley to escape the pain?

I know, I need to ride one first and I agree. The problem is a 20 minute test ride with a little town and a little highway isn't going to give me a good enough evaluation. I know it will put a smile from ear to ear on my face but that is why I am a member of this forum, because you guys have the bikes and you are not a dealer trying to sell me something.

Any opinions/advice are appreciated.
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Old Jan 30th, 2009, 9:18 pm   #2 (permalink)
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I came from a 1200GS Adventure; full screen, 9 gallon gas tank, comfy seat, heated grips...you get the picture.

I love my Hyper. It gives you more of a 'raw, motorcycle' feel than anything else. Like riding a classic from past.

That said; if you don't mind the looks of a screen, you have a better time and little better protection from the wind. It won't take away a lot of it, but it will direct a little of it around you. I took mine off after trying it for about 100 miles. I don't do a lot of freeway though and I didn't like the way it looked.

You'll get around 100 miles to a tank, maybe more, but not much less. There's a bigger tank now:

http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/ca...k_preorder.php

Any word on a larger tank?

You're going to love the Hyper in the twisties, it handles and balances like a dream. After riding for miles, your back, arms and neck won't be sore.

There's quite a few guys here that have both Hyper's and Superbike's so they'll probably chime in soon.

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Old Jan 30th, 2009, 11:10 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info about the Hyper and it is good to know that a bigger tank is going to be available. As for only getting 100 miles per tank, the fuel light comes on at 100 miles on my 1098 and the dealer was adamant that I need to fuel up when it comes on because you don't have much left after it comes on. It is so hard to fuel the 1098 tank to capacity because of how flat it is just below the gap cap. Usually 100 miles is about my capacity on the 1098 without having to take a break.

I will have to talk to my dealer as he has a demo 08 Hyper 1100S with 600 miles on it. The bike has never been titled so the warranty starts when purchased and the 600 miles service is already done, which saves some cash. It also has the Ducati race seat and taller screen attach as part of the deal. I would definitely buy another demo from them as my 1098 was a demo and I saved thousands over new.

Nothing against the new Monster but I want something different and something you don't see all the time. I know the Monster will sell well as it always does. I thought my 1098 would be that way, but even in Iowa, I am seeing more and more 1098's running around. Thanks again.......I love this forum.
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Old Jan 31st, 2009, 5:27 am   #4 (permalink)
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Fairings are for ferry's!

I grew up on naked Honda fours etc, I cannot see the fuss over wind pressure, we used to ride 600 miles in a day at 100mph sitting bolt upright with standard high rise bars.

The Hyper is perfectly comfortable at 70mph all day, the wind pressure is minimal but increases above that speed. With a tank bag in front of you,the pressure feels amazingly light at 90mph.

Swapped with a 1098 last weekend, he's a big boy and commented on how little pressure he felt at speed on the Hyper.

The seat is only good for about 50 miles of flat top, in the twisties you'll be having too much fun to notice any minor discomforts. I had my seat customised, better than DP options.

Power wise, the low and midrange are about the same upto 6,000rpm, from there the 1098 is on viagra, the Hyper is just flacid. At 120mph the hyper is just about done, the 1098 is just winding up in 4th gear.

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Old Jan 31st, 2009, 6:14 am   #5 (permalink)
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I have had 3 different sportbikes and have the same problems you have, getting old and the body is responding accordingly but instead of giving up something I love I compromised and got an Hyper. The stock seat isn't bad in my opinion, I tried the race seat and it was nice but not as comfortable as the stock seat, I am now running the gel comfort seat which is significantly better than stock for long rides. I love the Hyper because to me it handles like a superbike and feels like an adventure tourer, its very light and flickable, accelerates very well (stock bike will wheelie in the first 3 gears) the fuel range is only about 100 miles but in all fairness it doesnt bother me as I usually need to get off and stretch at that time so stopping for fuel is my excuse to stretch (you can also stand up while riding very comfortably and stretch your legs out) I have ridden with both windscreens and didnt make enough difference for me to buy one, I dont mind the wind blast you just lean into it to compensate and honestly at posted speed limits wind isnt bad, unless you driving the speed limit into a 20mph headwind, aside from that it has all the right parts, monoblock calipers, forged aluminum wheels, ohlins suspension etc. all the aftermarket options one could hope for.

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Old Jan 31st, 2009, 2:25 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Change the seat for the comfort seat and it will work for you. All day on the highway gets old but 26 miles is fine. I do 150 - 200 mile days no problem, no windscreen.
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Old Jan 31st, 2009, 3:01 pm   #7 (permalink)
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Imagine the torque of your old RC51 at 415 lbs wet with the Termi 2-1! Need I say more? Okay, I will! The HM is bar none the most fun I have ever had on a motorcycle period and exclamation point! Sure, it has a smallish tank and you can't do 180 mph but you've done a couple of track days and your riding preferences mature, you may come to the conclusion that 180+ mph sport bikes and their torture rack ergos belong on the race track. If you want a more relaxed motorcycle that you can still ride hard-and rewards you for riding it hard-but still gets the dopamine flowing in your brain, the Hyper will give it you in spades.
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Old Jan 31st, 2009, 3:10 pm   #8 (permalink)
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I do a 60 mile round trip commute daily on my hyper. I love the upright riding position, it's kinda like the XRs I grew up riding. For me the stock seat sucks but I have not tried the comfort or racing seats yet. The windshield helps keep the wind blast off your chest and you will be passing 100 mph before you realize it. 70-80 is a good interstate speed for me. The "S" suspension is way stiff for a daily driver with the roads I have. I am down to 2.5 wt redline fork oil and it helps but the high speed valving is controlled by the cartridges and can't be adjusted. Not sure if the standard model would be smoother on the highway.

Love the power, sound and the Ducati experience on the daily commute, but if I'm going to ride all day I'll take my Uly.
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Old Jan 31st, 2009, 7:58 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Guys, I really appreciate the feedback. My local dealer has a leftover 08 S in black so he is working up some numbers for me this weekend. The bike is all stock with no miles, but it is an 08, so I trying to work that to my advantage.

I did talk to the dealer I got my demo 1098 from about their demo Hyper S. They still have the bike and I think I can get a better deal on it since it is a demo. I am still working on the price with them. It has 806 miles on it, the comfort seat, touring screen, and they just installed Termi Carbon slipons as an effort to move this demo. The bike is mint and will be registered as new to the first buyer, so a brand new warranty, with no additional fees and the 600 mile service is done. I know they want to move it because the Hyper does not sell well in the Midwest, at least not as well as Monsters and Superbikes.

I have not seen the new Monster in person yet but I do like the feedback I am receiving about the Hyper from you guys and the dealer. My local dealer, who is an absolute standup guy with a small local shop, said he had a guy who came in who wanted an 848 and nothing else. The shop was super busy so he let the guy take out the demo Hyper for an hour. The guy came back and bought the Hyper. We will see what they can offer. I am also heading to the Chicago cycle show this next weekend. Thanks again.....
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Old Feb 2nd, 2009, 7:34 am   #10 (permalink)
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Since I ride so much, I have learned that anytime you get a different bike, you will get sored somewhere, but it goes away if you ride every day the same bike. When I got the HM, the dealer offered me a new 848 for the same price, ( and my sons wanted it over the HM, obiously looks ) but I needed a more user friendly bike, got the HM, and now I can`t see myself riding anything else.
I have an idea.
Come down to PR.
I have a friend who is selling a HM-S, with about $4k in pipes, etc, and he`s asking $12k. Bike is like new and has low miles.
Anyways, you can rent a Hyper at the local Duc dealer for $65 a day, which is next to the airport, so you can pick the bike and take off.
I will help you out and find you a place to stay for free, so all you will need is a plane ticket to here and back.
We could plan a ride to my friends house which is 2 hours from the airport, go riding with him, and then you decide if you buy a HM.
Temp here is around 80-85.
If I can help you, that will allow me to "pay forward" for all the good things that a lot of good friends did for me when I lived in U.S. ( Tennessee and Virginia, US NAVY ).
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