Scottoiler on a hyper - Ducati.ms

Treadmarks · Jan 12th, 2009, 7:59 am

Did the install this weekend. They have kits for the single sided swingarm but it looked more like a multi setup than Hyper specific.

Bought a new generation oiler from kneedragers for 60 bucks and found a dual sided applicator on fleabay for 20 bucks.

Install went well after finding a suitable adhesive to mount the dual tip on the swingarm. Hid the oiler beside the battery behind the carbon and can still get to the adjustment without removing the seat. Tested and primed the system with mobil 1 syn atf and then set at 1 drops every two minutes of run time. Chain is much cleaner now and bike seems to roll much easier.

Sould have seen the sludge built up around the front sprocket from the motul I was using.

Sorry....just realized I left my phone with the pics on it at home.

Will post later if anyone is interested.

hemsedal · Jan 12th, 2009, 8:06 am

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Originally Posted by Treadmarks

Did the install this weekend. They have kits for the single sided swingarm but it looked more like a multi setup than Hyper specific.

Bought a new generation oiler from kneedragers for 60 bucks and found a dual sided applicator on fleabay for 20 bucks.

Install went well after finding a suitable adhesive to mount the dual tip on the swingarm. Hid the oiler beside the battery behind the carbon and can still get to the adjustment without removing the seat. Tested and primed the system with mobil 1 syn atf and then set at 1 drops every two minutes of run time. Chain is much cleaner now and bike seems to roll much easier.

Sould have seen the sludge built up around the front sprocket from the motul I was using.

Sorry....just realized I left my phone with the pics on it at home.

Will post later if anyone is interested.

Do you have some picture of it

breakdown · Jan 12th, 2009, 9:48 am

Hmm that sounds interesting. I'm really lazy about looking after my chain so this might be a good solution.

Is there anything visible really? I'd be interested in something like that as long as it was fairly hidden from site.

vulpine3 · Jan 12th, 2009, 11:25 am

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Yes please.

Great mod for a thumping V twin - the one I had fitted to my 900ss probably doubled the life of the chain...

Anybody ever fitted one to feed the gearbox sprocket (more discrete but less effective?)

Cheers

bullet3z · Jan 12th, 2009, 4:42 pm

With this system is it making a mess of everything with the oil flying off the chain? I would think that some of it has to be coming off the chain and going all over the place. Is it causing road debris to build up around the front sprocket?

sconly · Jan 12th, 2009, 5:39 pm

flame me for saying so but the scotts oiler is a waste of freaking money, all new chains have thier lube sealed with o-rings/x-rings and dont require maintenance aside from the usual wiping it clean of road grime.

GHEZZI · Jan 12th, 2009, 5:44 pm

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Originally Posted by sconly

flame me for saying so but the scotts oiler is a waste of freaking money, all new chains have thier lube sealed with o-rings/x-rings and dont require maintenance aside from the usual wiping it clean of road grime.

Yeah, it's good they got all that lube sealed inside between the pins and rollers,

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE METAL CONTACT BETWEEN CHAIN AND SPROCKETS, DOH!

Check the heat difference between dry and lubed chains, you'll be amazed.

08hyper · Jan 13th, 2009, 1:06 am

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Originally Posted by GHEZZI

Yeah, it's good they got all that lube sealed inside between the pins and rollers,

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE METAL CONTACT BETWEEN CHAIN AND SPROCKETS, DOH!

Check the heat difference between dry and lubed chains, you'll be amazed.

(+1) ALL motorcycle drive need to be lubed, "O" ring chains & non "O" ring chains, O rings chains just not as much, and make sure you use "O" ring safe chain lube. Aloha Alex

Treadmarks · Jan 13th, 2009, 7:25 am

Wow! What a difference. Bike will fly past 100 quicker than before. Coasts farther and rolls easier.

Pics turned out like shit, too dark.

I will get more later. No sling off yet. The reason I like to use mobil 1 syn ATF is because it does not sling off in globs like the spray on stuff. It comes off more like a mist only after your chain is saturated. I am going to keep turning it up one notch per day till I encounter any sling off and then back off from there.

It is possible to use a single side nozzle and set it up on the front sprocket but I don't think you can get a dual sided nozzle to fit in there. Besides, I like to keep an eye on it.

I used an acraglass bedding cement with aluminum powder and drilled through holes in the dual nozzle mount so the cement could get better penetration. Had to clean off the motul gunk with brake cleaner to get a solid bond. Baked with a heat lamp at 200F over night. I added dye to the cement to make it the same color as the swing arm. There are no straps or brackets and hardware so all you really see is the black dual nozzle touching the rear sprocket. I removed my lower chain slider and used my dremel like a router and cut a small tunnel on the backside to hide the small feed hose all the way to the nozzle. the clear hose with red tranny fluid blends in well with the frame but I did use two black cable ties to hide the hose behind the frame. The vacuum activation hose can be seen attached to the vacuum port on the rear throttle body. The unit is pretty much hidden between the carbon cover and battery, but you can see a cable clamp that holds it in place.

Any way....I'm diggin it and the chain seems to like it too.

I'll take some good pics when I can.

sconly · Jan 13th, 2009, 8:08 pm

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Originally Posted by GHEZZI

Yeah, it's good they got all that lube sealed inside between the pins and rollers,

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE METAL CONTACT BETWEEN CHAIN AND SPROCKETS, DOH!

Check the heat difference between dry and lubed chains, you'll be amazed.

you guys should attend a motorcycle racing event, ama, motogp etc. dont see much lube there.

I dont disagree that there will be wear as it is metal on metal but you also need to understand that the metal itself acts as a lubricant, also those pins and rollers (yeah with all the sealed grease) rotate, once the rollers contact the sprocket the rollers rotate around the pin instead of rotating on the sprocket which would cause excessive friction.

you are right lubing the chain will reduce overall friction and heat but unless your planning on taking your hyper on nonstop trip cross country whats the point, how much friction do you think your going to reduce.

and if you think the bike accelerates faster, your right, but only by thounsandths of a second ie; (its in your head) if you think your faster you will be faster. If it takes a scotts oiler to trick your brain into thinking your faster than I guess a scotts oiler will make you faster.

but really, do some research, if reducing friction is a performance gain then wouldnt adding the scotts oiler add weight to the bike hinder performance, I know such a minimal amount wont make that much of a difference but then again adding that mess of oil to reduce friction isnt going to make much a difference either.

but hey, im just anther member with an opinion.