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Nov 15th, 2008, 8:12 pm
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Location: Milton, PA, USA
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zip tie on fork tube
can some folks please post pics or take measurements of how far their zip ties on their fork tubes end up after riding? The reason for my question is that no matter what I try, I can't ever seem to use all of the travel, even on the track or after wheelies. I have tried taking a bunch of preload and compression out to see if I can use all of the compression, but no luck. I could bottom the tie on my previous bike (when I had it set up a bit softer) and I regularly do on my track bike (I ate my way into needing a heavier spring and more compression shims).
I am concerned that something might be binded up in there. The fork does feel real stiff to me and doesn't seem to respond too well to adjustments.
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03 Yamaha R6 track bike
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Nov 15th, 2008, 8:32 pm
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So, it sounds like there might be too much fluid in there? That makes sense. I do have a couple jugs of motul racing 5 wt. that I bought to do my last bike before I wrecked it. Maybe I will throw that in there. 2.5 is too light for me( I weigh 210 lbs.).
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...Bologna music, there is nothing, and I mean nothing, sounding like an aircooled 2V Ducati engine pumping out the music through a full and open exhaust system. Knees buckle, conversations cease, and time stands still when such a thing passes by. -stolen from a random post from an anonymous member on esportbike.com
08 Ducati HM
03 Yamaha R6 track bike
02 Suzuki TL1000-R RIP baby
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Nov 15th, 2008, 9:06 pm
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yeah i have 1L of oil so can only at this point put 500ml in each leg. I might wait and see what transpires here. maybe I'll give racetech a call.
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Nov 15th, 2008, 9:45 pm
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pedro, what weight oil are you using and what do you weigh?
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...Bologna music, there is nothing, and I mean nothing, sounding like an aircooled 2V Ducati engine pumping out the music through a full and open exhaust system. Knees buckle, conversations cease, and time stands still when such a thing passes by. -stolen from a random post from an anonymous member on esportbike.com
08 Ducati HM
03 Yamaha R6 track bike
02 Suzuki TL1000-R RIP baby
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Nov 15th, 2008, 9:54 pm
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This from my workshop manual, I have 480 mls in mine now.
Recommended oil:
SHELL Advance Fork 7.5 or DONAX TA
Standard capacity:
0.480 cu.dm per leg.
Standard oil level:
104 mm.
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Nov 15th, 2008, 10:12 pm
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and you had well over that from the factory right? Did you put the 7.5 back in? I've always used 5 wt. in everything, but that is usually after valving changes.
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...Bologna music, there is nothing, and I mean nothing, sounding like an aircooled 2V Ducati engine pumping out the music through a full and open exhaust system. Knees buckle, conversations cease, and time stands still when such a thing passes by. -stolen from a random post from an anonymous member on esportbike.com
08 Ducati HM
03 Yamaha R6 track bike
02 Suzuki TL1000-R RIP baby
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Nov 15th, 2008, 11:01 pm
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yep over 650ml came out. I'm putting 500ml of shell 5w in right NOW...
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Nov 15th, 2008, 11:30 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freezer16801
and you had well over that from the factory right? Did you put the 7.5 back in? I've always used 5 wt. in everything, but that is usually after valving changes.
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I have 2.5w and 480mls per leg, will still get lighter springs once we find out the real oil per say!
I have emailed Tony @ racetech with wire diameters etc so we have the facts for everyone.
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2004 Designa Yello DR650
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Nov 16th, 2008, 1:01 am
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dude there is no way 480ml is good. I've got 500 in each leg now and just bottomed out after a big wheeeeeeely. big bang that I've never had before.
I'm not so sure about this 5w oil thingy yet. yes its smoother (a lot on the bumps) but I've lost a lot of confidence in the front, I'll wind on more compression damping tomorrow to go to work but I've maganged to lock the front wheel twice and slide it up the road on a test ride.
FYI the cable tie is now 30mm from the casting, I believe that to be the bottom of the fork travel, its about 15-20mm down from before. when the legs were off I measured total travel to my cable tie at 140mm so 20 down from that makes for 160.
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