Maps For Power Commander??

[kingsnake1650]

Just installed my commander today but the only maps offered by dynojet are for bikes with aftermarket exhaust. I have done the Airbox mod w/stock filter, cored my stock exhaust, and put a nichols flywheel in. Anyone have a map the will work for me?
Plan to have it dynoed and tuned but the nearest dyno doesnt have the #'s they need for the hyper yet???WTF? they say they will have them sometime in December. So I just need something that will work untill then

[MarksFriggin]

Just so you know... the Power Commander won't change anything below 25 percent throttle on a stock ECU.

[kingsnake1650]

hmm! I didnt know that. It will still get the bike closer to right than it is now, but I guess I'll need a dp ecu aswell?

[MarksFriggin]

Yeah, the DP ECUs are completely programmable.

[piarjr]

Originally Posted by MarksFriggin

Yeah, the DP ECUs are completely programmable.

All the way as with a PC ?? or just certain vaues ?? I am preparing myself to get a full system and I alredy got a DP cams ECU...

[kingsnake1650]

Originally Posted by piarjr

All the way as with a PC ?? or just certain vaues ?? I am preparing myself to get a full system and I alredy got a DP cams ECU...

If you want the bike perfectly tuned you will have to add a commander to it as well. Honestly Im in no hurry to get a DP ecu because the PC corrects and tunes the bike in the RPM/throttle positions that are used when your riding the bike. I think the PC can remap anything above 20% throttle and above 2000 rpms. If the bike runs a little lean off the line that doesnt bother me so much as when its at cruising speeds.

[nwrob]

Originally Posted by kingsnake1650

Just installed my commander today but the only maps offered by dynojet are for bikes with aftermarket exhaust. I have done the Airbox mod w/stock filter, cored my stock exhaust, and put a nichols flywheel in. Anyone have a map the will work for me?
Plan to have it dynoed and tuned but the nearest dyno doesnt have the #'s they need for the hyper yet???WTF? they say they will have them sometime in December. So I just need something that will work untill then

For the limited amount of mods you have I would have skipped the PCIII and just gotten a DP ECU. While limited in its tuneability it works okay. As your mods increase, the PCIII will be more of a benefit. Also, if your tuner isn't designing a map specific to your bike, keep shopping. Otherwise, you're wasting your time (or you're not getting your monies worth).

[kingsnake1650]

as time goes on I plan on more mods... If someone would put out an exhaust set up i liked I would do fuul exhaust, at 7500 miles I plan on cams, I will also put in a K&N before I have a map built. So in the long run I think the PC will be what I need, and even now despite its gaps I can get the PC to work out alot of the fueling issues the hyper has.
My concern and reason for my 1st post is the limited mapping info avalible for the hyper. As of now dynojet has 4 maps. Plus I talked to a local dyno tuner (Ive seen some of the bike he tunes.... they are very well sorted) he said he doesnt have all the info from Ducati to do the job?? but that it should be avalible some time in December. I dont know what that means. Anyone else know?
I know there are others running PC's...what map are you running? where did you get it? and have you had a tuner dail it in on a dyno?

[desmoworks]

Originally Posted by kingsnake1650

If you want the bike perfectly tuned you will have to add a commander to it as well. Honestly Im in no hurry to get a DP ecu because the PC corrects and tunes the bike in the RPM/throttle positions that are used when your riding the bike. I think the PC can remap anything above 20% throttle and above 2000 rpms. If the bike runs a little lean off the line that doesnt bother me so much as when its at cruising speeds.

Actually you'd be surprised how much time you spend in closed loop mode when riding. Almost anytime you are holding a constant speed you are in closed loop - I don't remember the exact number on the hyper, but closed loop is generally until 4500 or 5500 RPM.

[dave2riff]

I thought the closed-loop mode was dependent on the throttle position and
independent of RPM? No matter--you can compensate the closed-loop target with
a FatDuc O2 Manipulator and richen up the <25% throttle settings that way.
Let the Power Commander handle the rest. Closed-loop EFI can work very
well (and has some advantages to open-loop) as long as the Air-Fuel Ratio
targets are correct and not overly lean (as in the case of many Euro3 bikes). I
believe the future of EFI is fully closed-loop with wideband oxygen sensors,
in which case we will be dependent on either replacing or re-mapping the stock
ECU, since add-on devices like the PC III won't work. The present situation
of buying a new ECU for each set of Ducati Perf mods is laughable, considering
most vehicles have had re-programmable flash ECU's for about a decade.

It seems to me that the shop doing the dyno tune should be able to start with
the default PwrCmdr maps and dial in AFRs from there using an exhaust gas
analyzer and the dyno results themselves. A lot of guys tweak the PC III
maps by the seat-of-the-pants using the buttons on the Commander. An
optimal tune is more than numbers on a dyno chart... just keep it rich
at and approaching full throttle and do some plug readings to check for
leanness.