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Nov 6th, 2008, 9:24 am
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Why a lighter flywheel?
Lost in the other thread, so I'll just ask in a new one...
Anyone care to explain the benefits and disadvantages of a lighter flywheel.
I am sure the brilliant minds at Ducati Engineering came up with the stock weight for a reason. I get the faster spin-up, but what are you trading off? Torque?
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Nov 6th, 2008, 9:40 am
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have not had my second cup of coffee yet, so here is a start of the lists ...
benefits of lighter than stock flywheel: - provides faster spin-up of engine, so can produce torque and horse power faster
- produces less gyroscopic effect (due to less rotational mass), which makes the bike drop into and pull out of turns with less effort
reason ducati manufactures with heavier flywheel: - engine idles smoother
- is easier for rider to move from standing stop (more engine rotational weight)
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Nov 6th, 2008, 10:59 am
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The key factor is quicker revs. The rotational mass of the flywheel is fairly small, and I don't think turn in is effected....not enough to make a noticable difference.
The biggest change you'll notice is that egine breaking is reduced since less energy is stored in the flywheel due to the lower weight.
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Nov 6th, 2008, 12:34 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paewraul
The key factor is quicker revs. The rotational mass of the flywheel is fairly small, and I don't think turn in is effected....not enough to make a noticable difference.
The biggest change you'll notice is that egine breaking is reduced since less energy is stored in the flywheel due to the lower weight.
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Wouldn't engine braking be increased with a lighter flywheel since there's less mass to keep the engine spinning?
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Nov 6th, 2008, 12:45 pm
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Extreme Power wheely's........
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Nov 6th, 2008, 12:49 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarksFriggin
Wouldn't engine braking be increased with a lighter flywheel since there's less mass to keep the engine spinning?
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yes ... good catch.
forgot to mention that earlier (now have had second espresso)
a heavier flywheel smoothes out power delivery and engine braking effect, as there is more inertia.
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Nov 6th, 2008, 2:02 pm
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engine braking in theory might be increased..... but since putting the nichols flywheel on I seem to have less wheel hop when hard engine breaking.
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Nov 6th, 2008, 2:20 pm
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If much of your ride involves stop n' go city street/traffic or sketchy roads you may be better off leaving it stock as the heavier flywheel is smoother.
As with most mods, its a tradeoff. I did notice easier turn-in. I like the quicker engine response, especially with the 15/44 gearing. It does require a little more throttle control when traction is limited however.
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Nov 6th, 2008, 3:18 pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dukepilot
It does require a little more throttle control when traction is limited however.
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sure ... but your hypertard's engine is putting out about 1500 hp on nitro now, right?
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Nov 6th, 2008, 4:47 pm
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Since the engines are so similar and since this topic was discussed to death on the SC forum, check out this thread:
flywheel, cams or pistons
and this link:
http://www.duc.bz/DUC_Tests_NicholsFlywheel.htm
Also, Dietrich has a fairly recent thread in the SC forum that's devoted to his project of lightening a stock flywheel. Good stuff!
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