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Sep 2nd, 2008, 5:50 pm
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Madison, MS, USA
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Melted Termi sticker
Has this happened to anyone else? Mine is on a 2n1 full system. Thoughts/concerns? Bike has built engine with dual hole airbox mod with filter, HC pistons, cams, and flowed heads. Bike runs awesome without any stalls or pops/backfire on decel. 1800 miles and tuned on dyno-will try to post pic. This was the first time bike was ran hard/topped out. Not sure what GPS would be but the dash displayed 147 while tucked with elbows and factory mirrors out-stock gears/tires, light flashing and limiter kicked in. Bike will not be ridden like this very often but was on a rabbit run with the liter bikes on a long straight; so I had to at least see. I had to get gas in some strange places so maybe one did not actually have premium in their tank. Ideas/Concerns? Thanks in advance.
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 6:30 pm
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: DC, MD, VA, , USA
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Just tell everyone the sticker wasn't designed for 147 MPH and that this happens due to the air friction at that speed.
After all, isn't that why we buy all the carbon fiber--to keep the burn to a miniumum?
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'08 HM 1100 S
Termi 2-2 slip on, DP race header, DP race seat, DP steering damper, DP airbox lid, DP race cams, DP race ECU (cam version), DP CF clutch cover, BMC Filters, Pistal hi-comp pistons, ported heads by BCM, Piazzo short levers, Shift-Tech CF tank cover, S-T CF hugger (4 pieces), S-T CF sprocket cover, S-T CF ignition cover, S-T CF Windscreen, S-T CF gauge cover, Rizoma reservoirs, EVS pressure plate, EVS clutch slave cylinder. HP: never enough Torque: see HP
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 7:02 pm
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Location: Austin, TX, USA
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Might want to check your air/fuel. A lean condition could cause your muffler to get too hot, and THAT would be the least of your problems.
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 7:27 pm
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Location: Madison, MS, USA
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My thoughts also but it was fine the last time on the dyno without any changes since unless a airleak or something developed but it seems it would not run very well in that case, which it runs fine.??
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 7:29 pm
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Location: LA, CA, USA
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you can get those stickers virtually anywhere. i bet your dealer has some. if not, call up Pro Italia or BCM and have them send you a set.
Or, just remove them. If it can happen once.,....
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 7:49 pm
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Location: Madison, MS, USA
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Thanks bro, I do like the sticker but I really wonder what everyone thinks if there may be a more serious problem or if this is a common thing? Thanks for the heads up on the sticker.
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 9:46 pm
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i want to see what color the headers are now!!! they should be somewhere between purple and transparent!
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 9:50 pm
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: DC, MD, VA, , USA
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You may already know all of this but just in case...
Diagnose plugs to see if there are any signs of running lean. Looking for beige (light tan) color on insulator with minimal carbon deposits. White insulator normally indicates things are a bit too lean (could be type of fuel, not enough fuel, or too much air). Could be a timing issue but you said it seems to be running fine so I would initially eliminate that.
Also, what temp are you seeing when you ride?
Note: At 340°F+ the instrument panel will read "Hi" (per manual).
If all these are normal then I would check to make sure your carbon cover is not in direct contact with the exhaust system. I have the 2-2 Termis and there is a sigificant air gap between the CF and the actual exhaust system. If the 2-1 has a real CF "can" then ignore this paragraph!
Good luck!
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'08 HM 1100 S
Termi 2-2 slip on, DP race header, DP race seat, DP steering damper, DP airbox lid, DP race cams, DP race ECU (cam version), DP CF clutch cover, BMC Filters, Pistal hi-comp pistons, ported heads by BCM, Piazzo short levers, Shift-Tech CF tank cover, S-T CF hugger (4 pieces), S-T CF sprocket cover, S-T CF ignition cover, S-T CF Windscreen, S-T CF gauge cover, Rizoma reservoirs, EVS pressure plate, EVS clutch slave cylinder. HP: never enough Torque: see HP
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 11:16 pm
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Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Reading the porcelin on a set of plugs doesn't necessarily help to determine jetting or air/fuel mixture. Here is a link to a better way to read plugs.
http://www.trinityracing.com/files/Plug-Reading.pdf
Out!
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2008 Ducati Hypermotard
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Sep 2nd, 2008, 11:33 pm
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: DC, MD, VA, , USA
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Yep, I agree. But it will give you a reasonable symptom to determine if one needs to dig deeper.
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'08 HM 1100 S
Termi 2-2 slip on, DP race header, DP race seat, DP steering damper, DP airbox lid, DP race cams, DP race ECU (cam version), DP CF clutch cover, BMC Filters, Pistal hi-comp pistons, ported heads by BCM, Piazzo short levers, Shift-Tech CF tank cover, S-T CF hugger (4 pieces), S-T CF sprocket cover, S-T CF ignition cover, S-T CF Windscreen, S-T CF gauge cover, Rizoma reservoirs, EVS pressure plate, EVS clutch slave cylinder. HP: never enough Torque: see HP
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