Closed loop setup for Zards? - Ducati.ms

MY45 · Aug 29th, 2008, 9:15 pm

Ok, so im just about to install my zard penta full system and will be after more power soon

What im wanting to know is to know is will the DP ecu's still run the closed loop setup? And why doesnt the termi systems run closed loop?

Quackzilla · Aug 29th, 2008, 10:08 pm

termis don't use the closed loop setup because it uses a new ECU

you run in Closed loop in lower RPM's, throttle position & engine load with the stock ECU.
also closed loop is used for emissions

MY45 · Aug 30th, 2008, 2:21 am

I understand that the temi's come with the ECU, but will the better ecu's still run the closed loop setup....And will it be as good as without it ie. termi's

IainMac · Aug 30th, 2008, 3:05 am

DP ECUs dont run closed loop. will it be better? define better. Better fuel enconomy... highly unlikely as most DP ECUs use a blanket rich fuel map to cover unforseen enventualitys , ie avoid lean running, I suspect ducati use the extra fuel for additonal piston cooling.
Better power? if you combine it with better breathing (air intake) then yes this is likely.
Note I didnt say best... as that usually requires a custom map which the DP ECU cant do in stock form.

NYSport · Sep 5th, 2008, 10:31 am

MY45, did you have any issue with tab on the front pipe. Mine misses the isolation mount by about 2.5 inches. The rest of the install was clean. Also did you remove the butterfly valve motor? I did and know I have an EOBD light. Thanks Tom

MY45 · Sep 6th, 2008, 9:15 pm

The tab needs to be removed by undoing the foot peg and behind it is a hole for the fat bolt in the kit to screw into. I needed to cut the tab because there wasnt a spacer to go back behind the pegs, you will see when u do it.

NYSport · Sep 7th, 2008, 11:03 am

MY45, the only "fat bolt" in my kit was the O2 plug, no instruction either. Although I did get a copy of the instructions, in Italian, they are less than comprehensive is guess would be the nice way to describe them.

Check out the two pictures in my gallery and you will see the system looks correct in its position but the tab is way off. The tab should line up with the blue isolation mount. Cutting the tab is certainly an option but for $1200. I would hope it would fit. Tom

I wish posting pictures in thread was as easy as posting to my gallery.

MY45 · Sep 8th, 2008, 5:02 am

It isnt meant to line up with the blue mount. You need to remove the whole tab by removing the lower foot peg bolts and sliding the whole tab and blue rubber out, which reveals a hidden bolt hole. Ill get a few pics of mine for you.

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Originally Posted by NYSport

MY45, the only "fat bolt" in my kit was the O2 plug, no instruction either. Although I did get a copy of the instructions, in Italian, they are less than comprehensive is guess would be the nice way to describe them.

Check out the two pictures in my gallery and you will see the system looks correct in its position but the tab is way off. The tab should line up with the blue isolation mount. Cutting the tab is certainly an option but for $1200. I would hope it would fit. Tom

I wish posting pictures in thread was as easy as posting to my gallery.

MY45 · Sep 8th, 2008, 7:27 am

Ok so here is a pic for you with it in its final position.

imprezawd · Sep 8th, 2008, 9:24 am

HOLD UP!??? What exactly needs to be done to install the ZARD collectors? I recieve mine today and wanna make this a very easy install!!!!
Why do u have to cut? I still dont understand this??