How much better was the Termi exhaust.. - Ducati.ms

Antigrav · Aug 6th, 2008, 12:24 am

I'm ready to pull the trigger on the HM-S, but I am having trouble wrapping my mind around the $2300 Termi 2 into 1... So my question is the bang for the buck that you got for the extra cash of the exhaust worth it?.. Did it make the bike much more impressive or was the stock set up after opening the airfilter pretty decent. I'm all for performance but that is getting pretty freaking expensive for roughly 5 HP....plus after a couple extras like seat and hugger ect. I'm into 18k for a Hyper... for me that is getting silly. I don't need it really if its just bling plus a little HP.... In my eyes I could use that extra cash for tires, track days ect...but if the improvement was really significant it might be worth it.

bmartinek · Aug 6th, 2008, 1:14 am

Your analysis and mine are pretty similar.

Don't get me wrong I love the looks of the Termi, but I opted for the QuatD Full Exhaust System for $899 (I bought off the classifieds for slightly cheaper). I love being the heretic at the revival meeting, also it should be a bit lighter, shorter low-slung pipe.
All the full systems are about 15lbs lighter than the stock ones. Pretty good weight loss. Also it is said to improve the throttle repsonse, making it not so on/off.

I am sure others with the Termi system could elaborate.

georound · Aug 6th, 2008, 1:15 am

There are cheaper exhausts out there. You could also get the Termi slipons, which are much cheaper. I didn't really like having the pipe on the side, but that's my opinion. With slip ons, you may want the Cat eliminator from LV.

Many like the Leo Vincis, Zards or the Arrow pipes also. The HP is nice, but the stock sound is pretty boring, so pipes are high on the list for most. Keep an eye on the classifieds and ebay.

frique · Aug 6th, 2008, 4:21 am

The difference is day and night. Really. I`m sure all the systems are pretty good with airbox mod and ecu. The full Termi really wakes this bike up and the sound is unmatched IMO.

Enigma · Aug 6th, 2008, 7:52 am

the problem you run into there is if you want a DP ECU and airbox to help even out the flow. dont get me wrong you can use a power commander but IMO the ecu is a much better fix

**BillyD** · Aug 6th, 2008, 8:54 am

The 2-1 works as advertised. Nice bump in power and torque with significant weight reduction and lower CG. Handling went to shit after installing the 2-1 and I had to get LE to set up the suspension for the lower weight.

Going with the 2-1 (with new ECU and airbox cover) does not in and by itself get rid of the snatchy throttle. That comes after properly adjusting the TPS, fuel trim, synchronizing the throttle bodies and, in some cases, adjusting the idle set screws.

The Termi slip-ons are the prettiest, but do little performance or weight-wise. The LVs seem to perform well and look great and usually lead to further clean up on the license plate holder area.

Search on "Nichols Dyno" for charts.

Caidly · Aug 6th, 2008, 9:47 am

I think the important thing about an exhaust upgrade is that it is the place to begin for any other engine/ performance upgrade in the future.

**BillyD** · Aug 6th, 2008, 10:59 am

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Originally Posted by CTarna

I think the important thing about an exhaust upgrade is that it is the place to begin for any other engine/ performance upgrade in the future.

Not for me.

I'm perfectly happy with the way the bike is right now with the 2-1 for the type of riding I do. You will reach the point of diminishing returns real fast on any further engine mods.

If anything, I will pull a page out of Ghezzi's handbook and focus more on the suspension to more effectively get what power I already have to the ground.

Installing cams and doing the associated head work and piston upgrades is intellectually and mechanically interesting, but the benefits of such mods hardly justify the expense, especially in light that this thread originally questioned whether the 2-1 was worth the expense.

Anyone truly looking for 100Hp rear wheel probably should have bought something else, such as a KTM 990 SuperDuke (even though it is ugly).

LionStar · Aug 6th, 2008, 12:58 pm

I went ahead and put the full system on when I bought mine and have never regretted it. Another guy in our club did not and he has kicked himself ever since. If you are going to finance the bike it really doesn't add that much more to your payment and I think it is also covered by warranty if you do it when you buy it.

dukepilot · Aug 6th, 2008, 1:04 pm

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Originally Posted by BillyD

Not for me.

I'm perfectly happy with the way the bike is right now with the 2-1 for the type of riding I do. You will reach the point of diminishing returns real fast on any further engine mods.

If anything, I will pull a page out of Ghezzi's handbook and focus more on the suspension to more effectively get what power I already have to the ground.

Installing cams and doing the associated head work and piston upgrades is intellectually and mechanically interesting, but the benefits of such mods hardly justify the expense, especially in light that this thread originally questioned whether the 2-1 was worth the expense.

Anyone truly looking for 100Hp rear wheel probably should have bought something else, such as a KTM 990 SuperDuke (even though it is ugly).

BillyD is right. More power after intake and exhaust mods gets real expensive. Better to spend the money first on fine tuning the fueling/injection settings to work efficiently with the exhaust and intake mods and on brake/suspension setup.