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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 9:40 am   #1 (permalink)
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*#+)&* turn signal setting

having a problem. when i put LED signals on the back of my hyper saturday I reset the ecu thus:

held up on the mode switch while turning on the key
scrolled to "set indic"
changed reading from "lamp" to "LED"
scroll to "MEM" (actually says NEN)
turn off key

every time I do this it goes back to "lamp" and when I use the turn signals either the dash indicator doesn't come on at all or it flashes wildly. any ideas?
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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 11:24 am   #2 (permalink)
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Yota,

I looked at the workshop manual for a little bit to see if I could find anything for you and I couldn't. It sounds like you are completing the process correctly. If it doesn't take I think maybe a telephone call to your Ducati wrench may be in order rather then bangin your head. It might be something he can tell you over the phone. Goodluck
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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 1:48 pm   #3 (permalink)
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Do you have the stock front indicators or did you change them?

I changed my front indicators to LED types while leaving the stock rear lamp indicators in place. When I set the computer to "LED", none of the indicators blink at all. When I set the computer to "lamp" the indicators blink, albeit at a fast rate.

I had assumed that because I didn't install any inline resistor on the new front LED indicators that the computer wasn't recognizing the left and right indicators resistive loads correctly.

If you still have the stock front indicators and have only installed the Ducati LED rear indicators, then it sure sounds like something is amiss. I suspect that the stock front LED indicators have some built-in resistance that provides the appropriate balance with the stock or Ducati LED rear indicators.
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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 3:03 pm   #4 (permalink)
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I have motrax billet LED's both ends. I ran the motrax's on the front for months without having to reset. I just put them on the rear saturday and now have a little problem.


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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 3:59 pm   #5 (permalink)
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I installed the DP billet LED turn signals in the rear of my HM, on the Rizoma rear fender eliminator bracket, and didn't have to do a thing. They came with the resistor inline, completely plug and play. They are incredibly bright!
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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 6:24 pm   #6 (permalink)
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Stock front indicators are 3.3W
Bulbs will be about 3W

LED indicators are ~1W.

The problem is that Ducati have 'made' the fronts to appear like bulbs to the system hence the default setting is bulb.

you have 2 choices, replace the fronts with LEDs that draw about 1W of power and set the dash to LED,

Add resistors to the rear LED's to burn up the extra 2W in heat and fool the system into thinking there is a bulb at the back.

I have bulbs on the back and new LED's on the front, I added an 85ohm 5W resistor in parallel across the fronts and it worked a treat, I'd imagine you want something similar on the backs OR change the fronts too.

EDIT -- oops, just read again and notice that you've already done the fronts, you will need to check the load on those. when i tested the LED setting the lights would blink on for a fraction of a second and just randomly blink away.

NOW, if you put the LED's on the front and had to do nothing to keep the blink rate the same then i guess they are quite high power LED's (some come with resistance built in to mimic bulbs for motorbikes) then keep it on BULB on the ECU and it won't care, when set to bulb with LED's front and back what is the rateof the flash?

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Old Jul 15th, 2008, 11:28 pm   #7 (permalink)
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I have the same problem and I am running stock lights up front and Motrax LEDs (different than yours) in the rear. Tried the programming thing several times and it always failed to get the flash rate normalized. I personally don't think the faster flash rate is a problem, but I too would like to slow it a bit. I know that Motrax makes a resistor kit for the blinkers which will slow the flash rate. It is a universal kit and splices inline.

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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 8:07 am   #8 (permalink)
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I don't mind the flash rate but on left signal my dash light does not work and on right signal the dash light flashes wildly some times and not at all other times.
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One point I've noticed is, some led lights are polarity specific. Won't work until leads are reversed.
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Old Jul 16th, 2008, 2:21 pm   #10 (permalink)
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when I installed the rears I connected the wires both ways and they flashed fine either way, which surprised me. at the time I didn't think to check and see if the dash light was working. I emailed motrax in Britian and they responded in less than an hour:

"Dear Frank,

This is a very peculiar fault and in the strangest way too. Do I take it that the indicators are still working? What happens to your dash light if you put stocks back on the rear, does everything return to normal? If the answers to both are yes then I think the solution would be load resistors for the rear set.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

Regards

Motrax"



jesus, not looking forward to undoing all the heat shrink and elec tape where I spliced into the stock push plugs to check the take offs.
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