Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa

[Speednut]

I've used these track biased tyres for 4000km now and I'm very impressed. As they are basically a slick tyre with a few small lines they offer exceptional grip once they warm up. This takes a few minutes though so dont go twisting the throttle to the stop as soon as you leave the driveway or you'll find your rear tyre overtaking your front.

Basically they allow me to accelerate harder than I would ever dare to while leant over and exiting a corner. The grip hasnt seemed to diminish with time or distance yet either.

When compared with Michelin Pilot Race and Bridgestone BT-002R I would say the Pirellis take a little longer to warm up than both, last a little longer than the Michelins and give more grip when hot than the Bridgestones.

The Pirellis dont feel as aggressively shaped as the Michelins so they wont drop into a corner as quickly, but to my mind the Hyper is a naturally unstable bike anyway so that's not really that important. The extra control offered by the Pirellis is confidence inspiring.

The disadvantages though are that they dont like painted lines on the road even in the dry (although this could be just in my local area..), they dont do as well as a more road based tyre in the wet because they're more of a slick and they definitely cost a lot more. However, if you only ride your motard on cloudless sundays and money isnt a priority, the disadvantages wont really bother you.

I ride every day and use the tyres in all kinds of weather and they do the job if you remember to ride to the conditions. Personally they dont fit into my budget though, so I wont be using them again. If money was no object, I wouldnt use anything else.

[bpad1]

I'd say you're asking for trouble with those tires on the street. On top of that, they're not gonna last you very long. At $420 US a set from my trackside vendor, that's gonna get spensive. There are many posts on this issue. Do a search and see what others have to say. Thats just my 2 cts. Have fun!

[mduc]

Ok help me out on this one, but aren't the Diablo Supercorsa's the stock tires on the 1098R. My 1098S has the Diablo Supercorsa Pro's and they are fine on the street.

[freezer16801]

I think 675's come with them too. I've used them on the track and love them. Just too costly to burn up that quick in my opinion.

[bpad1]

Originally Posted by mduc

Ok help me out on this one, but aren't the Diablo Supercorsa's the stock tires on the 1098R. My 1098S has the Diablo Supercorsa Pro's and they are fine on the street.

just because they come stock on a bike doesn't make them the best choice for the street. Often, what comes has more to do with marketing. We all like to see "Race" written on the sides of our tires. If you look at Pirelli's reccommended use for that tire it's the track. Thats because usually, street riding can't come anywhere near to generating and sustaining the temps for optimum performance. If you are generating those temps on the street, you're either gonna be dead or in jail soon. Plus, with all the starting and sopping in traffic, tires will cool down quickly. Are they street legal? Yes. Are they the best choice for most, IMO, no. Pirelli makes a street tire that has a much broader range of operating temps and will last tons longer than the DOT race tires. Like i've said before, if you are outriding any modern sport tire on the streets, either you are FOS, or gonna be in jail or dead soon. I know very good riders who can't outride modern street tires at the track. Hell, California superbike school uses Dunlop qualifiers on all student bikes. Last year when i took the 2 day camp i was with some very fast CCS expert racers who did fine on those. Just my opinion.

[bpad1]

The other thing, if you ever get caught in the rain, good luck getting any heat into them to make them work. If your not careful, you'll be on your arse!

[freezer16801]

Hell, California superbike school uses Dunlop qualifiers on all student bikes. Last year when i took the 2 day camp i was with some very fast CCS expert racers who did fine on those. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]


many teampromotion coaches ride on diablo corsa III's too.

[mduc]

Originally Posted by bpad1

just because they come stock on a bike doesn't make them the best choice for the street. Often, what comes has more to do with marketing. We all like to see "Race" written on the sides of our tires. If you look at Pirelli's reccommended use for that tire it's the track. Thats because usually, street riding can't come anywhere near to generating and sustaining the temps for optimum performance. If you are generating those temps on the street, you're either gonna be dead or in jail soon. Plus, with all the starting and sopping in traffic, tires will cool down quickly. Are they street legal? Yes. Are they the best choice for most, IMO, no. Pirelli makes a street tire that has a much broader range of operating temps and will last tons longer than the DOT race tires. Like i've said before, if you are outriding any modern sport tire on the streets, either you are FOS, or gonna be in jail or dead soon. I know very good riders who can't outride modern street tires at the track. Hell, California superbike school uses Dunlop qualifiers on all student bikes. Last year when i took the 2 day camp i was with some very fast CCS expert racers who did fine on those. Just my opinion.

The Diablo Supercorsa's which are indeed the stock tire on the 1098R and look very close to a race slick. I would say they are a track tire and probably not the best for the street. My 1098S has the Diablo SUpercorsa's Pro's that have a full tread and seem much more streetable the the Supercorsa's. I have riden my 1098S on the street and my tires seem fine. I have even riden them in the rain and they are fine as long as you don't ride like a nut. I do agree that most bikes don't come from the factory with the best tires. I have already changed the tires on my HyperS to Michelin Pilot 2CT's. Now that is a great street tire!!! ( see pic below )

[Mistress2]

I always get these tires confused.

I have a 1098S which comes stock with the "Dragon Supercorsa Pro's". They are great street and track tires. They also wear out pretty quickly. They are sticky and provide great front end feel and overall grip.

When the stock tires wore out I was riding at the track and purchased a set of DOT Diablo Supercorsa's in the SC2 compound. I found them to provide better turn in capabilities and grip. They also heat up quickly.

In California here is a pretty competitive place to purchase them; www.tigersharkracing.com.

If you are looking for a good compromise for street ridability and performance you may want to look into the new Pirelli Diablo Rosso. They have been rated the best street performance tire overall.

[infidel]

Originally Posted by Speednut

I've used these track biased tyres for 4000km now and I'm very impressed. As they are basically a slick tyre with a few small lines they offer exceptional grip once they warm up. This takes a few minutes though so dont go twisting the throttle to the stop as soon as you leave the driveway or you'll find your rear tyre overtaking your front.

Basically they allow me to accelerate harder than I would ever dare to while leant over and exiting a corner. The grip hasnt seemed to diminish with time or distance yet either.

When compared with Michelin Pilot Race and Bridgestone BT-002R I would say the Pirellis take a little longer to warm up than both, last a little longer than the Michelins and give more grip when hot than the Bridgestones.

The Pirellis dont feel as aggressively shaped as the Michelins so they wont drop into a corner as quickly, but to my mind the Hyper is a naturally unstable bike anyway so that's not really that important. The extra control offered by the Pirellis is confidence inspiring.

The disadvantages though are that they dont like painted lines on the road even in the dry (although this could be just in my local area..), they dont do as well as a more road based tyre in the wet because they're more of a slick and they definitely cost a lot more. However, if you only ride your motard on cloudless sundays and money isnt a priority, the disadvantages wont really bother you.

I ride every day and use the tyres in all kinds of weather and they do the job if you remember to ride to the conditions. Personally they dont fit into my budget though, so I wont be using them again. If money was no object, I wouldnt use anything else.

I get supercorsa's of a supersportracer who changes them after every 6 lap race. I have been using them on my SXV550 and they are the most confidence inspiring tyre i have ever ridden on in the dry. In the wet.........you have to be very careful. They cool down quickly and spin very easily. As said above paint and tar lines are slipery even in the wet, yet alone the dry. If you do mountain riding they wear pretty evenly, but the centre is soft and wears quickly if you spend any great period of time on the road