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May 18th, 2008, 1:00 am
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200 miles today - East of Seattle - few pics
I trailered the Hyper and my Dad's new Road King to East of Seattle and we rode over Blewett Pass and through Wenatchee. About 200 miles total...awesome roads and weather!
Got about 500 miles total now on the Hyper and the bike is incredible. The handling feels very stable and the front was suprisingly planted through some higher speed corners. Not sure if the damper is even necessary, suspension is stock. The power is smooth and linear.
If I could just get another 10 HP and a few more ft lbs it'd be perfect. I have the termi 2-1-2 with DP airbox cover and DNA filter. Also a PC3 with a custom map (dyno run attached), and the fueling seems very nice but can't help feeling there may be a bit of extra power hidden in there. I'll take it to the shop and see if they can refine the tune a bit. Otherwise I may have to reluctantly look at the Cams, porting, pistons, etc.. but would like to keep the reliability and rideability intact.
Those with the cams? Did you see some decent gains or did you trade Torque for HP?
Just need to find that little bit of extra power
The DP windshield is a nice addition but not sure if it helps all that much, but it's nice to be able to tuck in behind it.
Few pics: on the pass, Windshield and black Rizzos, latest dyno run
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May 18th, 2008, 2:56 am
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Bike looks good, now ditch those fork reflectors.........
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May 18th, 2008, 4:42 am
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Will the 2-1 and cams get you where you want to be?
in terms of weight saving, perhaps the lighten fly wheel may give you the extra flickability you are looking for!
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May 18th, 2008, 11:33 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donkeyman
Will the 2-1 and cams get you where you want to be?
in terms of weight saving, perhaps the lighten fly wheel may give you the extra flickability you are looking for!
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+1. I like the looks of the Termi slip-ons better than the 2-1, but the 2-1 or some aftermarket true 2-1-2 system is the way to go for HP (+8 Hp), Torque (+3 lb-ft) and max weight savings (~-15 lbs). When I ditched the stock exhaust for the 2-1, I had to have a completely different suspension set-up (front pre-load +1 from stock, Rear pre-load +2 from stock, Front+Rear Compression 1/4 out from all in, all for tight twisties, uneven pavement, 175 lb rider) because of the substantial weight reduction and redistribution.
IMHO cams without associated head work are of marginal benefit, perhaps even a bit of a negative considering how the power curve shifts to the right perhaps even with a drop in peak torque.
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May 18th, 2008, 3:34 pm
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BillyD
The thing is I have the full termi 2-1-2 with manifolds and the whole deal. Coming off of a CRF450 for comparison as this is my first road bike - the Hyper is just a perfect road bike in my mind. It's like a huge stable dirtbike in SM trim.
I feared the cams would rob low to give high. I'll have to check the fueling and see of there it can be leaned just a touch where the torque curve drops at 4500 RPM...seems it could stay until 5500 or 6000
I would love to have just a bit more grunt, then could drop the rear sprocket 2
Thanks
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May 19th, 2008, 12:03 am
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First, nice bike. Second, we should meet up sometime and go ride, I live in Redmond. I've had my Hyper for 1 week now and have 800 some odd miles  .
I went to Seattle Ducati on Saturday and did a dyno run. My bike is bone stock right now and pulled a 75.2 hp. I think with your mods, you should be pulling more than you are ... have them check your PC3 mapping. Did you purchase the PC3 through Seattle Ducati and take advantage of their 1 hour dyno tune?
Thanks.
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May 19th, 2008, 12:11 am
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I put the 14T DP front Sprocket on and it made a nice difference in 2nd gear making it more user friendly IMHO. Its about 50 bucks and is an easy install. You might want to give it a shot and see and I didn't notice that big of top end loss. I had it running at 129mph indicated before it hit the rev limiter.
As for cams, unless you are going to add the PC and do a polishing work I don't think you will gain what you are looking for. From the data posted on here in the past the Cams alone robbed some torque and again IMHO messed up the nice HP/TQ curve the Hyper has. It seemed to create a dip that is not present with exhaust and perfomance ecu.
Looking at your Dyno run it does appear that the Full Race Termi does do a little better, not much but a little.
Goodluck
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May 19th, 2008, 8:51 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyD
+1. I like the looks of the Termi slip-ons better than the 2-1, but the 2-1 or some aftermarket true 2-1-2 system is the way to go for HP (+8 Hp), Torque (+3 lb-ft) and max weight savings (~-15 lbs). When I ditched the stock exhaust for the 2-1, I had to have a completely different suspension set-up (front pre-load +1 from stock, Rear pre-load +2 from stock, Front+Rear Compression 1/4 out from all in, all for tight twisties, uneven pavement, 175 lb rider) because of the substantial weight reduction and redistribution.
IMHO cams without associated head work are of marginal benefit, perhaps even a bit of a negative considering how the power curve shifts to the right perhaps even with a drop in peak torque.
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BillyD and all, looking for suspension advice.
Here's my situation: For twisties mostly (not here, but in N. GA) riders weight 210, passenger 170 (two up most of the time up there) Hyper S, full race 2-1 w/ air box mod and race ecu, some weight reduction through CF replacement.
Not complaining but what, if any, changes should I make to suspension from stock (again. it's an S)?
TIA
Steve
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May 19th, 2008, 10:08 pm
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Two up = Multistrada! Ditch the rear pegs, follow my suspension advice for the non-S, buy the old lady a scooter, and ride like the wind!
That being said, the only way you are going to get the suspension set is to follow the same rules for setting sag, but you are gonna have to do it with both riders on the bike. Then follow that with the adjusting compression and rebound. Unfortunately, you are going to be way off for two up from single so you will never have a perfect compromise.
That is why a guy needs at least 10 bike on for all situations. I am seven short, can anyone help?
Out!
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