Hyper deposit down, but I have a question. - Ducati.ms

bvretr · May 11th, 2008, 7:35 pm

Hello to everyone. My name is Josh and I just put a deposit down on a standard hyper last Wednesday with plans to pick it up this upcoming week, weather permitting.

I did not get to test ride the bike due to my only having a motorcycle permit. The dealer, of course, required a full license to test ride bikes. I did not feel it was necessary anyway since I just sold my 06 Husky SM610 and already know that I absolutely love supermoto type bikes and the ride characteristics they provide. My reason for wanting a hyper starts with a desire for a bike that's a bit "better suited for the road" and I also wanted something with a bit more power. The husky was fine power wise, but I sometimes felt myself wanting more, you know.

My question. I just got done reading a guy's post where he talks about how doggedly slow the hyper is. I don't get it. I've ridden 600 sport bikes and I recognize that a four cylinder bike makes a lot more high rpm power, but I mean, the thing runs a mid 11 second quarter mile. That's fast. Maybe not superbike fast, but fast nonetheless. Not to even mention the bike makes nearly 80 ft. lbs. of torque. My husky put numbers like 60 horse and 40 ft. lbs. down at the crank with the Leo Vince system I had on it, so this is quite a step up for me. I'm just looking for a bit of insight on the subject.

The way I see it, if I'm already accustomed to the type of ride that a supermoto bike gives, there's no way I can be disappointed with 35 more horsepower and double the torque. I guess one's feeling about the power of this bike, like most everything else, is based on perspective. I'm honestly expecting to be pretty blown away by the power delivery of this thing given my personal experience. I'm coming from a 576 single to an 1100 twin, right?

Sorry for the lengthy first post and thanks for all the info I stole here in the last couple of weeks.

chris410 · May 11th, 2008, 8:03 pm

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Originally Posted by bvretr

My question. I just got done reading a guy's post where he talks about how doggedly slow the hyper is. I don't get it. I've ridden 600 sport bikes and I recognize that a four cylinder bike makes a lot more high rpm power, but I mean, the thing runs a mid 11 second quarter mile. That's fast. Maybe not superbike fast, but fast nonetheless. Not to even mention the bike makes nearly 80 ft. lbs. of torque. My husky put numbers like 60 horse and 40 ft. lbs. down at the crank with the Leo Vince system I had on it, so this is quite a step up for me. I'm just looking for a bit of insight on the subject.

Well, there are two ways to view someone who says a bike is slow. First, if they are an accomplished rider...perhaps their statement holds weight coming from an accomplished rider but then again I'd hope that statement came from after a track session.

Then, there are people who really don't know how to ride or push a bike hard...in my experience, someone who is fast will be fast on anything. A buddy of mine can turn times faster than some experts on an SV650 compared to a modified 600...or 1000. My own experience, I finished overall in the unlimited supersport class 12th overall (missing 4 rounds) on a bone stock 600...in most cases I was able to run 2 to 3 seconds faster at tracks I had little experience at. So...is the hyper slow? If you're looking to do 180mph on the highway sure...if you're looking to carve up some turns? HELL NO! Each and every time I rode with other people (most of who usually were on 1000's) taking it easy I would have to wait up for them...and I don't mean a few feet ahead...we're talking a good clip in front.

Put it this way, if you are riding the hyper and find yourself needing more power, you really need to go on the track because you're pushing way too hard for the street.

Good luck and have fun! Hyper is a crazy amount of fun!

Enigma · May 11th, 2008, 8:20 pm

I agree with Chris on this one, I have had many liter bikes and many 600's but this is probably the best bike I have had yet, you can only go so fast on the street without endangering yourself or others. Worse case scenario is that you actually like it. Ignore reviews from magazines and some people who may not like the bike because everyone has different preferences

husky · May 11th, 2008, 10:42 pm

This is probably the most fun I've had on a bike. This bike is not about horse power, it's about torque. When you will get on this bike you will laugh so hard and then you will understand all of us hyper owners. I ride with guys that are on their Hypers while I am on my Husky and I can hang with them in tight canyons but when they come out of corners, boy they are gone! So basically two bikes for two different purposes. When I was getting ready to buy my hyper and I would ask guys what they thought of their hyper, they would tell me how much fun it was and how much power it had and all kinds of good things that I have heard before when buying other bikes and with other bikes, I would be kinda disappointed when I would finally buy the bike. But not the Hyper, in fact everything everybody said about the bike you can double that and I ain't BS'N!!!!!!

dratom · May 12th, 2008, 6:49 am

When I first got on my Hyper I thought it was a little anemic. A few of my last bikes were the Aprilia Tuono, MV Agusta 1000, and the BMW K1200R. On the track they were amazing, but on the street they still begged to be flogged. Doing so on those bikes will get you in trouble if not hurt (well all bikes can do that to you on the street)

Now that being said, after getting past the first few hundred miles and getting the feeling on how to ride the Hyper you find that the bike doesn't need tons of HP. It is such a comfortable and flickable bike that you will be scraping your foot pegs in no time. It has plenty of grunt, and to call it slow is a little silly. Only the rider makes a hyper slow.

Oh, and chicken strips.... The only time you will see them is on your buddies bikes while you are pointing and laughing.

ADHD · May 12th, 2008, 7:17 am

On my first ride, the HM actually surprised me by it's quickness. Then, I rode it a bit and was a little disappointed. I thought, maybe it's needs a 14 tooth sprocket up front. Then I rode it like a proper v twin! The v, er, I mean, l twins are all about torque. The HM with the race exhaust is similar in weight to a CBR 600 or R6 but it has liter bike torque! And as we all know, staying in the torque band pays big dividends when exiting corners. I think Chris said it best, "someone who is fast will be fast on anything." Plus, imo, you have a limb in the different genres of motorcycling culture-Supermoto , the Ducatista world, sportbiking and naked bikes. I think it's a win-win-win-win situation!

Personally, I cannot wait for a 80+ degree day to really see what she can do in the twisties with my friends on larger displacement bikes. It should be fun!

ProTwinSteve · May 12th, 2008, 7:20 am

Hi mate the hyper is a good ride in standard trim, but the DS motor has good tuning ability, lighten the flywheel, fit some good cams and a set of high comp pistons (good ones obviously) and run a power commander. ALSO upgrade your exhaust. These are just a few things you can do without spending heaps. Play with your suspension and set the bike up properly for your riding and you cant go wrong. Check out VEE TWO in perth they have a website and have a browse at their cams. should you want to take that route. if not... enjoy the bike the way it is.

bvretr · May 12th, 2008, 7:28 am

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm definitely glad to hear the things you're saying, because all of the attributes you speak of play right into what I love in a motorcycle, and, the things it doesn't do well really don't matter to me at all.

I live in central Pennsylvania and have a ton of great back road riding available to me. I travel about 30 minutes to and from work and the trip can be made on a road that is considered to be one of the best motorcycle routes around here, and even if I choose to take the most direct roads (which I sometimes do in the morning), it only requires about 10 miles on the interstate.

Again, thanks for putting me at ease. I'm signing up for a rider safety course and getting my full on license real soon, so hopefully I won't have to go through this again.

crashman · May 12th, 2008, 11:38 am

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Originally Posted by bvretr

Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'm definitely glad to hear the things you're saying, because all of the attributes you speak of play right into what I love in a motorcycle, and, the things it doesn't do well really don't matter to me at all.

I live in central Pennsylvania and have a ton of great back road riding available to me. I travel about 30 minutes to and from work and the trip can be made on a road that is considered to be one of the best motorcycle routes around here, and even if I choose to take the most direct roads (which I sometimes do in the morning), it only requires about 10 miles on the interstate.

Again, thanks for putting me at ease. I'm signing up for a rider safety course and getting my full on license real soon, so hopefully I won't have to go through this again.

Hey Josh,
I will do my first post on the board as a response to your concerns. I used to race MX in the early 80's and Superbikes back in the late 90's. Needless to say I have owned a few bikes. My most current bike was a SM that I got to lump up sportbike guys with at track days. I just picked up a HM a week ago and the thing is amazing. It is the most fun bike I have ever ridden. It is decent on the highway, great in the curves and just plain fun.
Chris pretty much hit the nail on the head with his post. If you are a straight line guy you can find faster bikes but if you like the curves more than the straights the HM is a great bike.
Later,
Craig

HM1100SX · May 13th, 2008, 6:30 pm

I love my Hyper - when I first got it I was surprised that it felt a little slow. But soon realized that it is just smoother and not as loud as my other bikes.

After 7,000 miles (she has loosened up a bit) I realize now that I ride much faster on my Hyper then my 400 supermotard - and the hyper is a better overall bike. However, for short canyon blasts it is hard to beat a 275lb motard.

If I had to have just one bike - I don't know that it would be a Hyper, but I love it and would buy it again.