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Apr 17th, 2008, 12:38 pm
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Largo, FL, USA
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high speed corner stability?
One thing i like about my Z1000 is that I can confidently lean the bike over very far at speeds from 70-110 or so. Ive taken a few around town rides on dv6468's and am concerned it might be shakey at those speeds with alot of lean. I have no question about tight cornering stability.
Thanks for any help, first post on the Duc forum!
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Apr 17th, 2008, 1:55 pm
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Location: Aromas, CA, USA
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What's the question?
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Apr 17th, 2008, 3:31 pm
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how is the stability of the hyper in high speed corners/sweepers? 70-110 mph range.
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Apr 17th, 2008, 4:47 pm
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Depends on your setup... road, skill level, etc... very subjective question. That being said, I'm more comfortable in sweepers at higher speeds on a true sportbike.
b
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Apr 17th, 2008, 5:26 pm
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My HM-S was spooky at any speed until I got the suspension set-up by a professional. Now it is much more stable, but a sportbike it ain't through the high speed sweepers. For that, I'll take my 851 any day of the week.
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Apr 17th, 2008, 6:08 pm
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If you are running sweepers all day at 80+ mph you might need traction when you are done. That is one of the limitations of this bike without any wind protection. Its more comfortable in the technical twisties. That said it will handle higher speed corners with the right suspension setup just not a whole lotta fun if you are doing it all day. If you are mixing just a few corners like that into the ride then its fine.
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Apr 17th, 2008, 7:22 pm
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I think the biggest problem with high speed corners is the soft stock springs and long travel. I find that if I have the rear damping harder then is comfortable it compensates some, but it beats you up and will not track in the bumps. I really need to get off of my but and get stiffer springs.
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Apr 17th, 2008, 8:01 pm
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Once I dialed the suspension in I feel comfortable in corners at speeds in the 80-90 mph range, even with a few bumps. I was leaned over pretty good in a medium sweeper with some tar snakes and the rear slid a little on me..........that will crank the pucker factor up a notch or too. I think that is where the light weight of the bike comes into play. I found much the same with a gust of wind, except my front slid.
Anyway, if you are 180lbs or more you need to crank up the rear preload to get the soft rear working a little better and get more weight on the front.
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Apr 17th, 2008, 8:56 pm
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What is the stock spring rate/length? I hope to get mine in a couple weeks. I do a lot of my own suspension work and have some Ohlins and Sachs springs. I hear some guys say they feel "twitchy". That will be aggrevated by more rear preload or comp damping. Are the bikes balanced correctly or is one end sprung softer than the other?
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Apr 17th, 2008, 9:10 pm
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Location: Murfreesboro, TN,
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I think the stability has more to do with geometry then anything. Raising the rear speeds up steering for sure but I think you trade off stability. I lowered my forks a line and a half...would have made them flush with the upper triple but brake line length limited movement. This really helped my bike feel more stable in the higher speed sweepers. If I had an S with an adjustable rear link I would have tried shortening it a little. My 2 cents only.
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