Post up the mileage you got out of your rear tire before you had to replace it.
Since this is a big twin I know the tire will not last as long as some of the smaller bikes but this could be useful.
Also, if your tire wore out quickly post up a picture, if it's good enough we can see what is going on with the suspension etc...etc...which I suspect is the cause of so many tires having to be replaced so soon.
FYI...when your rear suspension is set too stiff the tire is forced to act as a direct extension to your suspension which will quickly wear it out.
I did get 3'700 km or 2'300 miles from Pirelli Super corsa III then I switched to the Metzeler Sportec M3 which did last now for another 2'400 km or 1'500 mile and should be good for another 1'000 miles or so. We will see next season
2200 miles. Corner carving and torqin up power wheelies didn't help the life of the tire any. I thought that 2000 was about where it should be though. I could get 3000 miles out of a tire on my ZX10r and I only pulled half as many wheelies as I do on the HM. It had literally twice the HP but about the same TQ.
i work my HM as hard as anyone and i have 4000 miles on the stock Brigdestones with 1-2mm left. however, it is said i am a "smooth" rider which means i ride fast without using abrupt steering and throttle inputs, which may (or may not) account for the extra miles i got.
btw, i have 5000 miles on my Pilot Powers on my 900ss and i fly on her as well...
i work my HM as hard as anyone and i have 4000 miles on the stock Brigdestones with 1-2mm left. however, it is said i am a "smooth" rider which means i ride fast without using abrupt steering and throttle inputs, which may (or may not) account for the extra miles i got.
btw, i have 5000 miles on my Pilot Powers on my 900ss and i fly on her as well...
Suspension and smoothness are key. For example, at the beginning of the race season I would destroy...I mean destroy 1 rear tire in 6 sprints. As I improved I got faster and my tires would last 6 sprints and a full practice day (5 20 minute sessions)
Of course, it could be that the Pirelli is just too soft for the HM. Then again, suspension comes into play but so far it seems that the Pirelli is not wearing well. At 1400 miles now my bridgestone is in excellent shape and I'm not exactly a turtle either ;-)
Good data so far...hopefully this will be useful for people looking for tire wear information.
I do not have a HM but I think Pirelli's Corsa III wears out faster.
in the center.
I'm getting only 2-3K on the rear with my PS1000LE.
I'm thinking of changing next to something else.
Any suggestions??
yup, just ordered a set of 2CT's for the HM. as a side note i increased the front and rear compression one turn each. so i am running a firmer suspension and still seeing good ware from the Bridgestones.
I have a set on my PS, they are bt 021 bridgestone so far they are my best tires they last very long and they grip very well.No more soft compound for me unless you go racing .Its getting too expensive for nothing.
Just an observation, but the last track day I attended every bike that went down was running Bridgestone street tires. Talked to the riders that went down and they said they don't know what happened, the tires just washed without warning.
Just an observation, but the last track day I attended every bike that went down was running Bridgestone street tires. Talked to the riders that went down and they said they don't know what happened, the tires just washed without warning.
Well I don't know the Bridgestone tires, but the Pirelli Corsa III and the Metzeler Sportec M3 are great. I will switch the front tire also to a Metzeler Sportec M3. In another HM forum they highly praise the Michelin PiPo for the HM. Next year I will probably try the Michelin once I have to change both tires at the same time.
Just an observation, but the last track day I attended every bike that went down was running Bridgestone street tires. Talked to the riders that went down and they said they don't know what happened, the tires just washed without warning.
Interesting...I raced all season on Bridgestone "race" tires and they were fantastic. I ran more than 40 races on Bridgestones and Plenty of grip, slid well...
I have to wonder if they were running trackday or street tires?
Me and a lot of other racers all ran Bridgestones and none of us had any issues.
Of course, trackday/street VS race tires are very different.
One piece of information that may be useful from talking to various tire techs.
Bridgestone/Dunlop/Pirelli - Good grip and have a design which allows you to slip so you have a good idea or "warning" on your limit of traction.
Michelin - Very very good grip however, the design does not provide much warning before you reach the limit of traction. (One reason I stopped racing Michelin...great tire but when they slip they slip big)
Something I figured may be useful however, I am talking about race tires.
Trackday I have ran the Pirelli Corsas and Corsa III's and they offer good grip and plenty of warning when they do slip.
The Michelin Pilot Powers work well however, if you plan on doing any type of off road riding including dirt their design does not work well.
Middle of tire was down to the cords at 2206 miles. Replaced it with another Corsa III because the grip is unbelievable even with low mileage wear. The new tire made such an instant difference with fresh tread on the middle, second gear power wheelies are effortless.
Well I don't know the Bridgestone tires, but the Pirelli Corsa III and the Metzeler Sportec M3 are great. I will switch the front tire also to a Metzeler Sportec M3. In another HM forum they highly praise the Michelin PiPo for the HM. Next year I will probably try the Michelin once I have to change both tires at the same time.
After riding the Bridgestone street tires and Corsa III's I can tell you with certainty that the Corsa III's are much better. However, for a street tire the Bridgestones are not bad.
The most important thing you can do is use the tires that you feel the most comforatble on. That makes a huge difference and actually will make you safer since you will have more confidence on them.
I'm curious to hear what mileage the michelins provide.
Just an observation, but the last track day I attended every bike that went down was running Bridgestone street tires. Talked to the riders that went down and they said they don't know what happened, the tires just washed without warning.
One piece of advice is NEVER...and I mean NEVER run a street tire on the track unless you are going very very slow. A street tire is made to work well in a particular temperature range, same goes with a race tire which is why unless you push them you end up cold tearing them quickly.
A street tire will begin to "grease" up once you heat it up past the design temperature. What happens is the oils from the compounds will surface and the tire will feel like you just rode through oil. I had this happen on a set of Pirelli "diablos" (not the corsas) and I stopped and pulled over to see if I was leaking oil because the bike was moving so much I nearly crashed a hand full of times. Well, when I pulled over I noticed the tires had spots of oil yet I confirmed 100% that I did not ride through any oil nor was leaking oil.
That makes more sense now that I read over your post again. Corsa III's are right at home at the track while the Bridgestones would grease up and cause crashes. Then again, "most" street tires would do this if you're pushing them at a decent pace.
I currently have the Qualifiers on my R6 street bike and they are holding up WAY better than the old D207's did. They grip much better, too. They appear to have a similar profile and dimensions as the BT014's so they shouldn't affect the geometry on the Hyper too much. I'll probably try them when my Battlax's wear out, but at this pace, I'll have my BT's at least 5,000 more miles. They look nearly new at 1,500. Who knows what will be out by then.
To revive an old posting, I got the last ride on my original rear tire this weekend. I got 1523 miles out of my Diablo Corsa III's. When I finished my ride on Saturday I was washing my bike and I found to my surprise that cords were just starting to show through. Good thing I washed my bike because I had planned to ride yesterday to finish off the tire and it might have just finished me off. I did notice a drop in straight line acceleration and braking performance in the last 200 or so miles. The tire was less grippy and I could see that the tread was slightly abraded looking as apposed to the smooth even wear before. The cornering performance was still spot on to the end. Awesome tire, I will be going back to it after I use up the Pirelli Scorpion Sync that I bough on accident. The front tire still looks very good and it's performance is also excellent.
I was thinking of putting on the Pirelli Scorpion Sync, when I change from the Corsa III's as the mileage is dismal, I noticed the Multistrada and the
KTM Supermoto are using the Scorpion Sync's, so what do you think? Thanks Alex
I am going to get them mounted tomorrow and I will let you know after a ride or two. I am hoping they will cut through the winter storm debris still on the back roads around here. I was sliding all over the place on Saturday.
There are several bikes now running the Pirelli Scorpion Syncs as original equipment; the KTM and Multistrada as mentioned, as well as the Buell Ulysses. The tread pattern and siping gives it a chance of traction for minimal dirt road usage, which also gives decent wet road traction.
On my Ulysses, the original and replacement rear Syncs each held up for about 5,000 miles of combined highway, mountain road, and even a few dirt roads. I am pretty impressed with the amount of traction considering the wear - the Buell's torque down low tends to eat up rear tires pretty quick, depending on the usage and road conditions. Of course that torque is part of the fun -- it will wheelie almost as easily as the Hypermotard !
I would recommend them to someone looking for a little mileage improvement without sacrificing too much grip. I have another set waiting to go on the Buell as soon as the rear Dunlop 616 gives up. I got it for a real good price as a backup, and I can't complain about the grip, but it is almost gone at 2,500 miles. (Similar type tire as the Sync)
My HMS rear Pirelli Corsa III is definitely flat spotted from too many upright miles here on Florida's abrasive road surfaces, and it only has about 1400 miles.
Sometime this spring, the Ducati will be staying in N.C., as I have a place about 10 minutes from the Cherohala Highway, and 25 minutes to Deal's Gap. Then,hopefully no more flat spotting the center of my Corsa IIIs !
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