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[desmoworks]

Ha! Have you guys never owned a Ducati before??? Try a $3600 superbike system! or a $3000 mag swing arm that you have to buy a special hub, shock, etc for. DP has always been like this. You want the cool stuff first you poney up the cash or you can wait a few months for the aftermarket. Do you guys remember the light weight front end kit for the 996? It was just over $17,000 retail! and it was just a wheel, triples, brakes, forks - not including the bike!!!

For example the 1098. Termignoni had a full system available from day one. The aftermarket is still having trouble bringing the slip ons to market, much less the full systems! If you want a full system right away - you have to buy Termi!

Originally Posted by flatovercrest

Question: Would other brand exhaust systems void the warranty on (any) Ducati, while the Termis bought thru Ducati don't?
I think I read that somewhere, but not completely sure.
TIA

There are so many stories about this. I've never asked someone who would definitely know, but how could it void a warranty claim of an unrelated item? If the aftermarket part caused the problem then it probably wouldn't be warranty, but if it has nothing to do with the part how could they not honor the warranty?

[BigHoss]

reminds me of my drag racing days....A small sign over the parts counter read

"Speed costs, How fast do you want to Go"

Same could apply here.

[desmoworks]

Originally Posted by BigHoss

reminds me of my drag racing days....A small sign over the parts counter read

"Speed costs, How fast do you want to Go"

Same could apply here.

That's great. I wish I would have thought of that. It would be a hilarious slogan!

[BigHoss]

I'll admit this is my first Ducati, only bikes of Euro decent before now have been Maico,CZ,Ossa,Bultaco and Husquavarna, all pretty pricey to buy parts for in their day so I am not surprised at the DP cost.

[baldheadeddork]

Originally Posted by flatovercrest

Question: Would other brand exhaust systems void the warranty on (any) Ducati, while the Termis bought thru Ducati don't?
I think I read that somewhere, but not completely sure.
TIA

This is a really good explanation from Ducati.net

If I work on my own bike does it void the warranty? What about aftermarket parts?
submitted by Larry Kelly, Vicki Smith

Larry Kelly's post takes all views on this question into consideration. Following his views is a small addition I have provided regarding Ducati Performance upgrades. (Vicki Smith)

In the US, the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act specifically provides that a vehicle manufacturer cannot void the warranty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the aftermarket part caused or contributed to the failure in the vehicle.

Doing your own maintenance could void your warranty, however.

The ultimate decision regarding voiding your warranty is Ducati's but if you read your warranty you'll see that Ducati's warranty is not predicated upon an authorized dealer performing all of your maintenance work nor does it require that the motorcycle remain in an unmodified condition or contain only factory parts during the warranty period.

However, if you have a claim during the warranty period it's reasonable for Ducati to suspect that inadequate maintenance and/or aftermarket parts had contributed to the failure. But legally they can't just void your entire warranty. They have to prove that the presence of non-factory parts or improper maintenance caused or contributed to the failure.

Conversely, there is an obligation and need that you keep records and receipts that can demonstrate that any maintenance work not performed by Ducati was done according to the service schedule and all replacement fluids met Ducati's specification.

To avoid any concerns, any performance parts that you install have to meet Ducati's specification as well. The only parts that meet this criteria are Ducati Performance parts and they have to be installed by an authorized dealer for the parts themselves to be covered under warranty and to avoid warranty issues on the motorcycle itself.

Consequently, if you decide to install any non-Ducati part or use a non-approved lubricant, fuel, or hydraulic fluid and you experience a related failure, expect a warranty challenge on a case-by-case basis. If you change your oil and filter yourself and later have an engine seizure determined by Ducati to be the result of inadequate lubrication you've got a problem.

So, even though a dealer cannot say that your entire warranty is void due to aftermarket pipes, you'll lose if you have an engine failure that can be traced to an excessively lean fuel condition caused by installing an incorrect Eprom for example.

Aftermarket parts usually carry their own warranty and often are of higher quality than OEM parts but still can cause problems if improperly installed, and it may be unwise to substitute a part (say a filter) simply because it's less expensive than the OEM unit.

Hope this helps,

Larry Kelly

In addition: (from Vicki) The warranty statement that comes with every new Ducati states that ANY unauthorized accessory installed on the motorcycle during the warranty period will cancel the warranty on all damage done by that accessory. For instance,an alarm system that is integrated with the wiring harness can damage the wiring harness, fuel injection unit or any electrical component. All that needs to happen is a short to ground or power surge to cause one or more components to fail. An aftermarket chip without a rev-limiter can destroy the crankshaft and connecting rods. If Ducati Performance parts are purchased and installed by a franchised dealer, the warranty on parts and labor is 2 YRS., unlimited miles. Any Ducati dealer can make you a copy of the warranty statement if you still have questions. Vicki Smith

[Buckelew]

Originally Posted by baldheadeddork

This is a really good explanation from Ducati.net

realize that Vicki is very invested in DNA/Ducati - she might as well be on the payroll. She's a bit biased.

DNA does what they want regarding the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act. They will void your warranty if you get servicing done outside the Dealer network - even though that is illegal.

It wasn't long ago that the official line was your warranty was voided if your bike went on the track - racing or not.

If you want to be the first on the block with a non-stock exhaust, you'll pay for that and the ECU....or whatever parts you need so badly.

But....there's history - people pay big bucks for modifications...especially if their riding skills don't take advantage of the performance gain (if any).

it's part of owning a Duc.