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Old Feb 8th, 2007, 8:16 pm   #11 (permalink)
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You have a good point here. If the HM comes with the same quality Marzocchis that the Sport Classics do, then it could mean trouble for an aggressively ridden HM. The recent Motorcyclist review of Triumph and Ducati retro bikes....the Duc with Marzocchi forks....was not at all flattering to the SC's. (The AMS site in Dallas lists the Ohlins fork set for the SC at $2018.)

Mark B., have you read that article ? If may give you the shivers !
Bevel...I had a houseguest, earlier this week, who had a copy of Motorcyclist...but I wasn't able to sneak it out of his grasp as he lay snoring and drooling on the couch with the cat crawling all over him......
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Besides....I'm tired of stirring up shit with Ducati. Time for the younger generation to take over.

I'll just get my HM and ride it for 6 months then send the suspension off to Rick at Cogent dynamics for upgrading.
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Old Feb 8th, 2007, 9:00 pm   #13 (permalink)
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Bevel...I had a houseguest, earlier this week, who had a copy of Motorcyclist...but I wasn't able to sneak it out of his grasp as he lay snoring and drooling on the couch with the cat crawling all over him......
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Old Feb 11th, 2007, 12:46 am   #14 (permalink)
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Geez, you guys. You're getting to be as bad as the people who were speculating wildly about how disappointing the 1098 was going to be, before anyone knew anything about it! Now that the 1098 is here in the flesh, it's a magnificent piece of kit. I think the same will hold true with the HM.

First of all, the price difference between the base HM and the S is $2500. ($11,495 and $13,995). Really, they're both overpriced when you see that the base 1098 is only $14,995, but what are you gonna do? But anyway, the S isn't a whole lot more spendy than the base model, and for that money you get better wheels (both of them, not just one, c'mon now), better brakes, and better suspension, along with some nice carbon bits. So the forks don't say "Ohlins" on them, so what? Marzocchi can't make a good fork? How about Showa? We're used to seeing OEM Showa forks that are nothing special, but have you seen the ones on the front of the Yoshimura Suzukis? If Showa can build a fork that nice, I'm sure Marzocchi can, too. Let's see them in action before we judge.

As for horsepower, I realize that it's just a given that people always want more, but consider what the HM is supposed to be. Just as with the Sportclassics, I find it kind of funny that people are so obsessed with getting even more power out of them. What are you doing that you need all that power?

To me, if a Sport Classic or a Hypermotard can: a) Do a roll-on wheelie, and b) attain triple-digit speeds, then it's got plenty of power! Sort the suspension to your liking, and then just ride the piss out of it.

What I'm expecting from my HM-S:

- Decent suspension that I can adjust the way I want it
- Lots of torque and reasonable top-end power
- The ability to put a shit-eating grin on my face every time I ride it

I really don't think the bike will disappoint. I'm not going to get all worked up about whether it has Superbike-level suspension and horsepower. It's not that kind of bike...
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Old Feb 11th, 2007, 3:07 am   #15 (permalink)
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the only disappointment was the early word saying that the S would have Ohlins suspension and finding outthat it's half ohlins. I've got no problems with the power - the torque should be dynamite, great seating position...really looking forward to riding it.
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Old Feb 11th, 2007, 8:27 am   #16 (permalink)
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why the hypermotard?

ok, why the hypermotard?

i have a deposit on a HM "S"and did think about the base model 1098 for another grand. however, i have a VERY potent racer in the loudbike already, the HM is gona be for "i dont give a shit" style fun, whipping around thru traffic, carrying a lady friend, PARKING IT WHEREVER I WANT and generally all the things the loudbike is not.

if you don't already have a track bike or other potent street machine, then i can understand the question marks in you eyes. but some us do and we want something TOTALLY different.

and if you dont think the MH will still kick the shit out of every street car out there, then you don't know the supermotard class of bikes.

here is a little vid from Germany pitting a Porsche GT2 vs Husqvarna supermotard

the times:
Porche: 17:16
Husqvarna: 16:12

look at how he slides rear!

oh this is going to be fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1d_6sKdyKM&NR
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Old Feb 11th, 2007, 10:08 am   #17 (permalink)
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I agree with what you are saying. I could have spent a grand more and get the 1098. But for what? The 1098 is a race bike and runs like one. Not practical. I don't go to racetracks.
The HM for me is the better fit and also the riding position is what made me decide to go for one. The Multistrada has a similar if not better riding position..but I can't live with the look.
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You have a good point here. If the HM comes with the same quality Marzocchis that the Sport Classics do, then it could mean trouble for an aggressively ridden HM. The recent Motorcyclist review of Triumph and Ducati retro bikes....the Duc with Marzocchi forks....was not at all flattering to the SC's. (The AMS site in Dallas lists the Ohlins fork set for the SC at $2018.)

Mark B., have you read that article ? If may give you the shivers !
Interesting. Didn't know the sport Classics used Marzocchis..

Specs for the Sport Classic indicate a 43mm fork... the HM shows a 50mm, so two different Marzocchis if the specs are correct...

BTW, The MV's use the 50's and like anything, for best performance they need setup for rider weight and riding style, but the 'Zoke 50's don't get a lot of complaints.
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