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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 10:23 am   #1 (permalink)
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Question Advice on purchase of new 2010 796

I've never purchased a new motorcycle, or a street bike for that matter... only used 6xx dual sports.

My local dealer has a new 2010 HyperMotard 796. List is $9995, they want to discount $1000 but then there's another $995 in misc fees.

Is that a fair deal? Do people haggle on bikes like they do with autos? They seem eager to move it, so maybe they'll throw in some extras--what should I ask for?

Thanks in advance.
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 10:30 am   #2 (permalink)
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Ask for the 1078cc engine

What do the misc fees consist of, because to me, that sounds like a lot of money for "nothing". I would try to see if you could get some aftermarket parts thrown in there. I'd ask for better front fork springs and oil, that's the first mod I did to my bike and it was by far the best.
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 12:25 pm   #3 (permalink)
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If the fees are normal for all sales (shipping,prep) then you save $1000.
See what other dealers charge
I can tell you from my experience Ducs are rarely discounted
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 12:42 pm   #4 (permalink)
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The fees are shipping from Ducati to dealer (around $500) and preparation (around $400). Every dealer slaps these fees on top of the sticker price. Then you have to add sales tax (if your state collects any), and registration fees.
So when I bought my 2011 HM796, I ended it up paying out the door about 20% over sticker price. 10% discount is ok but not great. The 2012 models will be hitting the showrooms soon, so a 2010 should be discounted more, even though nothing has changed in the new models.
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 12:56 pm   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you. It sounds like the deal is fair, but not excellent, and it would be unlikely for them to budge on the price or the $995 setup fee. My best bet is for them to throw in a few accessories to close the deal.

They said the stock springs are acceptable for me @ 210 lbs, however the front end did feel squishy on the showroom floor. I will definitely ask about stiffer front springs and heavier weight fork oil. I appreciate that suggestion.

IIRC the 600 mile service was ~ $225, so I can ask for that.

Any other key mods people make off the bat? I'm thinking if I go back with a $200-500 short list of things to ask for, that’d be cool. Are frame sliders dorky (disclaimer: I've never owned a street bike)?

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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 3:00 pm   #6 (permalink)
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I recently bought a 2011 796 and got it out the door for sticker price ($9995). That works out to something like a $1200 discount around here with taxes, lic, registration, etc.

No idea what part of the country you are in but that's the way it's working in SE Michigan right now.
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 3:25 pm   #7 (permalink)
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I just picked up a 2010 1100evo new off the show room for $11250 out the door. They waved all set up fees and discounted off the msrp. Plus they threw in a shirt for the wife and some key chains ( in my opinion made the deal) they can wave the set up fees if they want to move it bad enought. good luck.
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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 4:58 pm   #8 (permalink)
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i recently picked up a 2011 796 and told them eiher forget the setup fee or i walk. They made the deal.

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Old Oct 30th, 2011, 5:57 pm   #9 (permalink)
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Thank you. It sounds like the deal is fair, but not excellent, and it would be unlikely for them to budge on the price or the $995 setup fee. My best bet is for them to throw in a few accessories to close the deal.

They said the stock springs are acceptable for me @ 210 lbs, however the front end did feel squishy on the showroom floor. I will definitely ask about stiffer front springs and heavier weight fork oil. I appreciate that suggestion.

IIRC the 600 mile service was ~ $225, so I can ask for that.

Any other key mods people make off the bat? I'm thinking if I go back with a $200-500 short list of things to ask for, that’d be cool. Are frame sliders dorky (disclaimer: I've never owned a street bike)?

Cheers.
Stock springs acceptable for someone weighing 210? I weigh 180 and found the stock stuff way too soft. It's ok for commuting maybe, but not great by a long shot.

Other mods people do is changing the stock seat for a DP one, and putting on a steering damper. However, I don't know if a steering damper would be really necessary on the 796.
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They said the stock springs are acceptable for me @ 210 lbs, however the front end did feel squishy on the showroom floor. I will definitely ask about stiffer front springs and heavier weight fork oil. I appreciate that suggestion.
Deal sounds ok I guess but I have to agree with Drinky about the springs. They are completely full of shit if they're trying to tell you the stock suspension is good for a guy weighing 210. I'm about 200 and the front needs a ton of work and my rear is on full preload. At the very least I need a new rear spring. Suspect they just don't wanna deal with it, they just want ya to buy it.
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