Anybody have these cartridges? - Ducati.ms

krisnet55 · Jul 19th, 2011, 7:54 am

KIT CARTUCCIA FORCELLA ANDREANI DUCATI HYPERMOTARD

Vendita KIT CARTUCCIA FORCELLA ANDREANI DUCATI HYPERMOTARD | Accessori Moto | Ricambi Moto | WRS Evotech San Marino

Seems pretty affordable

I also found these but I think they are for the KYB

http://www.top-racing.it/HYPERMOTARD...821.sp.uw.aspx

Blorton · Jul 19th, 2011, 8:14 am

Interesting! They include the springs according to google translate.

08hyper · Jul 19th, 2011, 8:22 am

So......are you going to try them & report back?

How did your new springs work out? Aloha Alex

krisnet55 · Jul 19th, 2011, 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by 08hyper

So......are you going to try them & report back?

How did your new springs work out? Aloha Alex

I sent them an email asking further info. If I get the answers im looking for, hell yeah I will get them. My forks for now are fine except the rebound. I cant get it to work. It is however better then stock but the rebound is killing me. I think that ur set up is fine for one of the 2 reasons; either I did something wrong or something is screwed up in my forks or they just feel good for you since ur using urs at the track.

Mostly my problem is when hitting a bump, its absorbs the bump nicely but the fork shoots up after the bump. And from what im reading on the Italian forum a lot of people have the same complain.

Im really not looking for a super set up top of the line shit, just looking for something thats adjustable and for me the springs alone are not doing it. It just scares the crap out of me in the turns when I hit a bump. Also I am quite tired of dealing with the whole crap, swap oil, swap spring, soft spring, hard spring, less oil, more oil, fawk that

08hyper · Jul 20th, 2011, 12:30 am

I rode with Dave (decreasingdave) this weekend, he now likes his forks also, so maybe there is something wrong with your forks or the install.

If I were going to get a fork kit (I'm not) I would get the kit from a American based company like Ohlins U.S.A. or RaceTech, that way if you ran into any problems & needed help, they would be much easier to deal with, just saying.......Aloha Alex

krisnet55 · Jul 20th, 2011, 1:20 am

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Originally Posted by 08hyper

I rode with Dave (decreasingdave) this weekend, he now likes his forks also, so maybe there is something wrong with your forks or the install.

If I were going to get a fork kit (I'm not) I would get the kit from a American based company like Ohlins U.S.A. or RaceTech, that way if you ran into any problems & needed help, they would be much easier to deal with, just saying.......Aloha Alex

Did Dave mention anything, anything at all about rebound? It just doesnt work on my bike. I really cant think of anything that I have done wrong while doing the spring swap, and I did the whole thing 3 times, meaning flush old oil, clean, etc etc. Unless something is wrong with it from factory, but I highly doubt it, then again its a Ducati.

I would love to get the Ohlins or RT but they are 1K more for the Ohlins and $800 more for the RT. I know that difference will even out with the customer service, but for $700 buck shipped for a cartridge kit is very very tempting. Im still not sold on them but am considering.

Would you know that if putting a thinner or thicker oil will aid the rebound?
If so what effect does thinner or thicker oil have on rebound?

krisnet55 · Jul 20th, 2011, 7:25 am

This is another kit I just found

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08hyper · Jul 20th, 2011, 9:09 am

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Originally Posted by krisnet55

Did Dave mention anything, anything at all about rebound?

Would you know that if putting a thinner or thicker oil will aid the rebound?
If so what effect does thinner or thicker oil have on rebound?

No, Dave did not mention anything about rebound, he said that the forks are now working well & now have nice road feel, & don't dive like crazy like before, he's riding the bike to MotoGP now & I'm sure will report back.

You know the answer to this one, heavier oil will increase both compression & rebound, and the fork will react slower, but I wouldn't go much past 10w.

Have you tried the bike at some fast canyons or the track yet? maybe you should. Aloha Alex

krisnet55 · Jul 20th, 2011, 10:34 am

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Originally Posted by 08hyper

No, Dave did not mention anything about rebound, he said that the forks are now working well & now have nice road feel, & don't dive like crazy like before, he's riding the bike to MotoGP now & I'm sure will report back.

You know the answer to this one, heavier oil will increase both compression & rebound, and the fork will react slower, but I wouldn't go much past 10w.

Have you tried the bike at some fast canyons or the track yet? maybe you should. Aloha Alex

I give up man. The rebound issue is killing me. Honestly the bike is rideable and fairly acceptable, but as soon as I start to be a bit aggressive I lose confidence. This is due to the rebound and at this point its screwing with my head and will never gain the confidence again no matter what I do. I literally close the rebound and it shoots right back up as if it fully open. I thought about getting some used OEM cartridges since the problem may be that mine are damaged but I might end up throwing away more money and for the cost of the ones that I mentioned in the other thread ($700 shipped to the US) its not worth it for me to keep on struggling with the stock ones. As it is ive probably spent like $300 between springs and oils. I give.

BTW I got a reply from one of the companies I mentioned in the other thread and they have a distributor and tech in the US so I should be good for questions. I also got good customer service (prompt reply)from the company in Italy and should be also fine since I speak Italian.

krisnet55 · Jul 20th, 2011, 2:15 pm

Well, I gave in. I just placed an order for the Andrani Cartridge Kit. There is a distributor in the US and its fastbikeindustries.com. He told me they havent been able to market these but are getting ready to do so, been to busy, I just think that he thinks there isnt a big enough market for them, whatever. They are drop in kits unlike (come with springs based on weight) some other cartridges that require some modification to the stock forks (thats why some company's require you to ship them out ur forks and wont allow you to install yourself) For anyone who has changed or is familiar with swapping cartridges its an easy install, just like for any other bike, unscrew bottom screw remove cartridge and reverse order to install new cartridge.

I also had a nice conversation with the guy. I explained to him the issue I had with my OEM cartridge as far as not being the same. What I experienced was that when cleaning the OEM cartridge I tend to put a blow gun in the rebound rod to blow out the cleaning solution (brake cleaner). While blowing air in, one of the rods would retract out (normal) while the other one would compress in with force (not normal). Also as many of you know there is also the fact that they have different oil levels in each fork on the same bike. His answer to this is that some Marzocchi forks in order to save costs actually have a "dead valve" that pretty much doesnt do anything except save costs. This also goes for the base model multistrada. This was very, very interesting to me since I thought I was going crazy.

I trust in his knowledge since the guy (David) used to work at Ohlins and is friends with Mike Fitzgerald.

Yes I am very happy