Flashing the stock ECU??? - Ducati.ms

Crackerr · Mar 26th, 2011, 6:41 pm

Due to my addiction to adding parts to my hyper I'm looking at installing the DP cams.
Currently I've got the full system ECU that came with the termignoni and in the toolbox drawer is my stock ECU. Does anyone or can the stocker be flashed to the cam map?
Thanks in advance

craighjr · Mar 27th, 2011, 9:13 pm

I am having mine done at Desmoworks/Motalab currently. Its for a 08 ecu.

doon · Mar 28th, 2011, 1:33 am

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Originally Posted by Crackerr

Due to my addiction to adding parts to my hyper I'm looking at installing the DP cams.
Currently I've got the full system ECU that came with the termignoni and in the toolbox drawer is my stock ECU. Does anyone or can the stocker be flashed to the cam map?
Thanks in advance

I have a dp cams ecu if you want,$320 shipped

PM me if your interested.

**desmoworks** · Mar 28th, 2011, 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by Crackerr

Due to my addiction to adding parts to my hyper I'm looking at installing the DP cams.
Currently I've got the full system ECU that came with the termignoni and in the toolbox drawer is my stock ECU. Does anyone or can the stocker be flashed to the cam map?
Thanks in advance

I can flash the stock ECU to the cam map. Though a lot of people seem to have had good results using the full system ECU with the cams. I've not done that myself, but read it a could of times on this forum.

Decreasing Dave · Mar 28th, 2011, 3:35 am

Well now that poses a good question.

The Cams ECU adds 18% fuel over the stock ECU. The 2-1 ECU only adds 7% fuel over the stock ECU. Knowing that burning more fuel makes more power, does this mean that the cams with the 7% increase in fuel will make less power and run lean than the cams with the 18% fuel increase??

Does anyone know what fuel increase is required to meet the proper air/fuel ratio with the cams installed??

I ask because I have the Cams (thanks doon) and the 2-1 ECU and would love to install the cams but A) Don't have the Cams ECU, B) Don't have the Mid-sized Performance tank to offset the fuel consumption, and C) require decent fuel mileage as I'm riding from LA to Monterey and back for MotoGP this July and don't plan on being anywhere near a highway.

Thanks,
Dave

Abarth · Mar 28th, 2011, 6:19 am

What do you call decent fuel milage?

I ride with the cams, 2 in 1 Termignoni and cams ECU (though reflashed/altered for the use of the WASP kit) and I get 15 kilometers on each liter of fuel. Converted that is 37,3 miles per gallon.

craighjr · Mar 28th, 2011, 11:09 am

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Originally Posted by Decreasing Dave

Well now that poses a good question.

The Cams ECU adds 18% fuel over the stock ECU. The 2-1 ECU only adds 7% fuel over the stock ECU. Knowing that burning more fuel makes more power, does this mean that the cams with the 7% increase in fuel will make less power and run lean than the cams with the 18% fuel increase??

Does anyone know what fuel increase is required to meet the proper air/fuel ratio with the cams installed??

I would say that the dp ecu really isnt set right to run stacks with cams. They tune their ecu kits to run the larger air box lid with their performance parts. the best bet would be to tune your bike individually because no 2 bikes really are the same.

Decreasing Dave · Mar 28th, 2011, 5:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Abarth

What do you call decent fuel milage?

I ride with the cams, 2 in 1 Termignoni and cams ECU (though reflashed/altered for the use of the WASP kit) and I get 15 kilometers on each liter of fuel. Converted that is 37,3 miles per gallon.

I'm not really looking for a specific MPG number as much as I'm looking to be able to ride 100 miles confidently on one tank of fuel. That should afford me enough range to get to "the next" gas station on this trip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by craighjr

I would say that the dp ecu really isnt set right to run stacks with cams. They tune their ecu kits to run the larger air box lid with their performance parts. the best bet would be to tune your bike individually because no 2 bikes really are the same.

I realize this and I'm planning to get a PCv but again, the air/fuel ratio is a sticking point to fuel economy.

My question still stands, but I'll try to make it clearer. Do the DP Cams REQUIRE an 18% fuel increase over stock to have the bike run correctly (all things being equal, i.e. altitude, air density, etc...)???

Even if I use the 2-1 ECU (I know this question is coming) and the PCv, and install the Cams, will the PCv be required to boost the fuel 18% to meet the needs of the DP Cams???? Same question except more directly related to my situation.

Dave

vjdup · Mar 28th, 2011, 5:27 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abarth

What do you call decent fuel milage?

I ride with the cams, 2 in 1 Termignoni and cams ECU (though reflashed/altered for the use of the WASP kit) and I get 15 kilometers on each liter of fuel. Converted that is 37,3 miles per gallon.

Wow!
Im lookin foreward to 30+ mpg.
Ive the Termi 2 into 1, the cams ecu, and want to put the stacks on.

Gilly · Mar 28th, 2011, 5:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Decreasing Dave

I'm not really looking for a specific MPG number as much as I'm looking to be able to ride 100 miles confidently on one tank of fuel. That should afford me enough range to get to "the next" gas station on this trip.

I realize this and I'm planning to get a PCv but again, the air/fuel ratio is a sticking point to fuel economy.

My question still stands, but I'll try to make it clearer. Do the DP Cams REQUIRE an 18% fuel increase over stock to have the bike run correctly (all things being equal, i.e. altitude, air density, etc...)???

Even if I use the 2-1 ECU (I know this question is coming) and the PCv, and install the Cams, will the PCv be required to boost the fuel 18% to meet the needs of the DP Cams???? Same question except more directly related to my situation.

Dave

Apart from added fuel, what about ignition timing. Is this different between the various ecu's?