Holding the rear wheel off the ground

[Rikosintie]

I have been reading the suspension threads and decided it was time to start adjusting mine. I bought a book by Andrew Trevitt called "Sport Bike Suspension Tuning" and it had a picture of a Kawasaki sport bike with a bar through the swing arm pivot supported on jack stands. The book is very comprehensive covering preload, compression\rebound damping, ride height adjustment, rake\trail adjustments, etc. The Amazon link is for a signed copy.

Amazon.com: Used and New: Sportbike Suspension Tuning

Amazon.com: Used and New: Sportbike Suspension Tuning

Link to Andrew's blog
Get Well Trev

The hyper doesn't have a large hole all the way through so I made up some aluminum plugs. They are 1.5" dia. x 2.75 long. I counterbored them 1 1/6 x 1.6 deep. Then I bought an m12 x 80mm hex head bolt at Lowes and used it to secure the plug to the swingarm pivot. The only drawback is you have to remove the left side pasenger peg mount and the right side foot peg. But it works well.
Michael

[mangler7]

cool. you made me think about converting my motovation frame sliders to fit there.




I want to buy the rizoma's that won't crack your frame if you lay it down at speed. BTW monsterparts has them on sale for $250.

Monster Parts: Rizoma Frame slider for Ducati Hypermotard 1100

[Rikosintie]

Originally Posted by mangler7

cool. you made me think about converting my motovation frame sliders to fit there.

That was my first thought actually! I had the 1.5" aluminum laying around so I ended up using it. I don't see why the sliders wouldn't work though, you are holding up a 400lb bike on two points and the front wheel is carrying some of the load. Especially if the sliders don't break in crash!

The Motovation sliders are on my wish list of accessories. Can you elaborate on the frame cracking issue?
Michael

[mangler7]

Originally Posted by Rikosintie

Can you elaborate on the frame cracking issue?
Michael

This thread

Frame Sliders - ?

[doon]

To measure the rear sag just pull the rear off the ground using the side stand.
Have another person measure from the axle to a point above the axle.
A piece of masking tape stuck on the bike will help.
Take the measurement, repeat with you sitting on the bike fully kitted.
Take the second measurement away from the first and you have your sag measurement.

[Rikosintie]

Originally Posted by doon

To measure the rear sag just pull the rear off the ground using the side stand.
Have another person measure from the axle to a point above the axle.
A piece of masking tape stuck on the bike will help.
Take the measurement, repeat with you sitting on the bike fully kitted.
Take the second measurement away from the first and you have your sag measurement.

Yes, I know how to set sag. But that doesn't work for any maintenance. And I have read on this site that the Hyper's side stand is not the strongest either. I think I confused the issue when I said I was adjusting my suspension.

The reason I want a stable way to have the wheel off the ground is to pull the shock off. I want to install a Traxxion collar on it and I have found it to be easier to adjust the preload with no weight on the wheel.

Plus, I like to grease the linkage on a regular basis and this will work for that. I have seen several threads here asking how to support the bike with rear wheel off the ground. Most replies are to use tie downs to suspend it from the ceiling. This is just an alternative to tie downs.

It is much easier to do suspension work on our MX bikes, just lift them onto the stand and both wheels are off the ground! I still haven't figured out what I am going to do to pull the forks and change oil or replace springs. I mean other than laying out the cash for a triple clamp stand
Michael

[mangler7]

Originally Posted by Rikosintie

Yes, I know how to set sag. But that doesn't work for any maintenance. And I have read on this site that the Hyper's side stand is not the strongest either. I think I confused the issue when I said I was adjusting my suspension.

The reason I want a stable way to have the wheel off the ground is to pull the shock off. I want to install a Traxxion collar on it and I have found it to be easier to adjust the preload with no weight on the wheel.

Plus, I like to grease the linkage on a regular basis and this will work for that. I have seen several threads here asking how to support the bike with rear wheel off the ground. Most replies are to use tie downs to suspend it from the ceiling. This is just an alternative to tie downs.

It is much easier to do suspension work on our MX bikes, just lift them onto the stand and both wheels are off the ground! I still haven't figured out what I am going to do to pull the forks and change oil or replace springs. I mean other than laying out the cash for a triple clamp stand
Michael

Plus, it looks cool.

[WakeDude]

I took the front cylinder header off, and removed the oil filer(done during an oil change), 2Liter boxes from the local store, and viola. With someone helping, holding the bike up, you can take the rear stand off and just adjust the suspension.

-Alex

[Rikosintie]

Originally Posted by WakeDude

I took the front cylinder header off, and removed the oil filer(done during an oil change), 2Liter boxes from the local store, and viola. With someone helping, holding the bike up, you can take the rear stand off and just adjust the suspension.

-Alex

I had been using a hydraulic floor jack under the engine to lift the rear wheel but without the stand in place so that the spring didn't have any load on it. I think with the rear stand it will work perfect for removng the forks. Thanks for the picture and idea!
Michael

[Decreasing Dave]

I was kinda hoping that I would see your girlfriend holding up the bike......

Dave