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Feb 10th, 2011, 11:20 am
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Mirabel, Quebec, Canada
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How much time to install DP cams & do timming
Like title says how much time should a dealer charge me to install DP cams, adjust the valves & do the timming of the bike?
If I install them myself what tools do I need? how much do they cost?
I'm adjusting my valves myself & have done the belt with the frequency & I'm use to do mecanic so for me it's more a time & cost issue. If it cost the same (buy the tools & do it Vs have the dealer to do it) since I don't think that I will ever have to remove back the cams it's useless to buy the tool and do it...
Thanks
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Feb 12th, 2011, 8:46 am
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#2 (permalink)
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NOLA, LA, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeracing1
Like title says how much time should a dealer charge me to install DP cams, adjust the valves & do the timming of the bike?
If I install them myself what tools do I need? how much do they cost?
I'm adjusting my valves myself & have done the belt with the frequency & I'm use to do mecanic so for me it's more a time & cost issue. If it cost the same (buy the tools & do it Vs have the dealer to do it) since I don't think that I will ever have to remove back the cams it's useless to buy the tool and do it...
Thanks
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if you're going to degree the cams upon install (you should since you're already there). The tools from Ducati will cost you nearly $1k. It should take a trained technician apprx 4-5hrs to perform this job.
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Feb 14th, 2011, 12:12 am
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Wanaka, , New Zealand
Posts: 441
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Got a cams ecu for sale in the classifieds if you are interested!
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Feb 14th, 2011, 6:43 am
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 104
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is it a 4V or 2V?
i have done 2v install, shim and degree in around 4 hours
4 v in around 6-7 depending (desmoquattro more often than not had bad rocker arms to change too)
and a little tuning
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Feb 25th, 2011, 6:44 pm
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#5 (permalink)
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Mirabel, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 26
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What are the tools required to do the job, I already have the degree wheel and tool for holding it on the crank, dial indicator...
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Feb 26th, 2011, 9:55 am
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kristianstad, , Sweden
Posts: 52
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I would add its nice to have two dial indicators mounted solidly to the head so no false movement, I made my mounts up and the small forks which sit on the closing shims. Also you will need two locking bolts (8mm)which go in the cam cover to lock the cam (in the notch) when you put the belts on.Also a piston stop and solid pointer and a bunch of shims.
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Feb 26th, 2011, 10:43 am
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: New York, NY, USA
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I would say its always better to do it ur yourself. Always within reason of the price of the tools. Good thing is that you can always resell the tools and make some of the money back or you can always install someone elses and charge.
Me personally, I love having tools
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Feb 28th, 2011, 11:16 am
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Mirabel, Quebec, Canada
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Someone having the installation instructions? I have the maintnance manual but it's for OEM cams not DP so for the timming I guess it<s not the same values?
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Feb 28th, 2011, 1:58 pm
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Kristianstad, , Sweden
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeracing1
Someone having the installation instructions? I have the maintnance manual but it's for OEM cams not DP so for the timming I guess it<s not the same values?
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There are no instructions. And after talking to two dealers I am convinced they dont have a clue either, I get the impression they just install them and the customer goes "you degreed the cam didnt you ?" they reply "Ya". Probably because it takes a long time to fiddle with the adjustments, no dealer would make much money if they did it correctly 3-5 hrs I would guess.
I would also add that I set mine at 108 ( OEM is 115 ) which seemed to be the setting from previous threads, but I would also say the slightest change in belt tension makes a difference .Probably its best to just make them both exactly the same. Good luck.
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