2009 "S" model vs. 2010 "SP" anyone ridden both? - Ducati.ms

tee-dub · Jan 23rd, 2011, 3:33 pm

I'm getting ready to sell my Sport Classic and enter the world of Hypermotard. My local dealer has some deals on left over 2009 "S" models they bought from a dealer that was going out of business. I was there yesterday comparing them to the "SP" and I personally like the look/feel of the SP better. I haven't gotten hard numbers yet, but they are saying the 09 will be a killer deal and better value. Have any of you guys sampled both the "S" and "SP" and from a performance stance how do you feel they differ, if at all? I have long legs and do like how the "SP" feels taller under me. Also the forks look nicer (not sure if they really are or not).

Vdue · Jan 23rd, 2011, 3:47 pm

Well, you can't go wrong with both of them although there are some differences. Apart from the blink-blink stuff and fork internals and ECU the SP is taller and you get the torque a few revs later compared to the 09. Myself, I prefer the 09 torque, the 09 height don't worry about it. I pushed my fork legs up to the limits into the triple tree clamps and adjusted the rear cross link. The handle bar height I adjusted with some nice Rizoma risers. Works for me (185cm). In your position: get the least cost option and but the rest of the money into parts.

johnnie27 · Jan 23rd, 2011, 5:30 pm

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Originally Posted by tee-dub

I'm getting ready to sell my Sport Classic and enter the world of Hypermotard. My local dealer has some deals on left over 2009 "S" models they bought from a dealer that was going out of business. I was there yesterday comparing them to the "SP" and I personally like the look/feel of the SP better. I haven't gotten hard numbers yet, but they are saying the 09 will be a killer deal and better value. Have any of you guys sampled both the "S" and "SP" and from a performance stance how do you feel they differ, if at all? I have long legs and do like how the "SP" feels taller under me. Also the forks look nicer (not sure if they really are or not).

mate for me it was a no brainer..the SP is lighter (but most importantly lighter in the motor) nice a snappy on the throttle....less weight over all and more grunt.....i am sure world wide ducati will do you a good price on the sp too...they did for me in oz..to spec an S to an sp will cost a bunch...and if you spend that on the sp also it will be even better again..its like basically any new model.. as we know to shed 7kg's and pick up some HP on these bikes is quite expensive..i posted a thread if you look with a dyno of mine stock and the pervious model same dyno at ducati melbourne...more power more torque less weight...when the next one is out no doubt it will be better again,

tee-dub · Jan 23rd, 2011, 5:35 pm

I'm leaning towards the SP, but I want to hear the prices first. I figure I could buy the 09 "S" and an exhaust for the same price as the SP (maybe even less) but I am drawn to the SP for the reasons you've stated.

johnnie27 · Jan 23rd, 2011, 5:42 pm

my bike but out 1hp more than the 1100s with a race ecu and full 2-1 termi..not sure what the system cost over there but here its like 4K ! so in theory its alot of coin to go the same as a SP..add the sytem to the sp lose more weight make more power again

there is alway something else with this bike / car stuff...but its a fun way to spend money....

tee-dub · Jan 23rd, 2011, 5:48 pm

I think the Termi full 2-1 system runs about $2800 USD. I'm looking at the SC exhausts right now, they seem a good buy for a similar set up.

oalvarez · Jan 23rd, 2011, 6:16 pm

Had them both. Preferred the '09 due to it being a bit lower, but that won't apply to you. I also preferred the fueling electronics of the older model, it ran so much smoother across the curve (Fatduc's weren't available for the SP while I owned it and didn't want to go the route of an aftermarket system). The forks were not all that great on either "S" version.

The value play is the '09 with a Termi (aftermarket) exhaust kit. What a slick bike that would be.

If you don't mind paying the additional monies (and being taller than me), the SP is a wonderful bike. Be forewarned about the stalling and fueling issues in stock form.

Take care and good luck with the hunt.

johnnie27 · Jan 23rd, 2011, 6:41 pm

mine has never stalled, and runs very smooth...a few have mentioned isses in the USA with stalling? not sure but just make sure you take atleast 45 mins on a test ride and ride both.in and out of traffic if you can...then you'll know what to do

Mr R · Jan 23rd, 2011, 9:31 pm

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Originally Posted by johnnie27

my bike but out 1hp more than the 1100s with a race ecu and full 2-1 termi..not sure what the system cost over there but here its like 4K ! so in theory its alot of coin to go the same as a SP..add the sytem to the sp lose more weight make more power again

there is alway something else with this bike / car stuff...but its a fun way to spend money....

i hope this is true on my sp too. I rode a 09 base hyper with termi and wasp kit and i was really impressed how well she went

How's the painting coming along johnnie?

My sp gets here this week

freezer16801 · Jan 23rd, 2011, 10:13 pm

I bought the termi kit for $2100. You could have a better kit with stacks, ebay ECU, arrow collectors, and your slipon of choice for cheaper if you are patient enough to source the parts in good deals.

Don't worry about the ground clearance that others think are necessary. I ride A class on track days and have never touched pegs. Body position is very important on this bike. You need to hang off of it.

The price difference is important. What is the bottom line here?

Also, what forks does the SP have? That could be a deal breaker if they are showas