Oil Thermostat - Ducati.ms

dragoontwo · Dec 4th, 2010, 9:34 am

I have just recently started working with Mike from Thermostasis on a solution for a thermostat install for our bikes. The original thread started here. The product is not finished yet, and I need to take the bike on one of my regular routes to make the final judgment call on it. It would however appear to be doing its job quite well. We are currently looking at mounting the temp. sensor from the cooler into the stream of bypass oil to give better oil temps as it warms. When I first tested it, I rode for about 10 miles an a 32 deg. F day and the temp still displayed lo. Then all of a sudden the temp started to rapidly climb 108, 114, 120, 126, 134, 142, 150 in a matter of seconds and steadily rose from there.

We would like any feedback about the installation of the product, and any suggestions on how to make it better, so that the best kit possible can be made.

I am not working for thermostasis, and this thread is not intended for group buy purposes, so don't ask here. This is supposed to purely be an r&d thread.

Onto the pics!

el tardo · Dec 4th, 2010, 1:21 pm

im sorry but your going about this the wrong was.get a army navy tee and put a car temp sensor in it. a real thermostat can get stuck and you will end up needing a new motor casue of it.not a good idea

dragoontwo · Dec 4th, 2010, 1:39 pm

I suppose that i better go out and remove all the thermostats in my water cooled bikes and cars! You just saved me a ton of money on engine repairs!

It's my choice to do this so if any damage occurs, I'll deal with it.

Nginear · Dec 4th, 2010, 3:00 pm

Looking at the cutaway drawings they have of the internals it looks like it fails "safe". So I don't see any problem with that set up at all.

freezer16801 · Dec 4th, 2010, 3:55 pm

It looks like a quality kit. What concerns me is the bottom line on price considering it's appearance of quality. I always need to balance how necessary the part is with other projects like track days and priorities of life, etc.

So, keep it inexpensive and I will buy it!

Nginear · Dec 4th, 2010, 4:20 pm

Website says 130 for the thermo. Figure stainless oil lines like 7 bucks a foot (maybe less) plus $$$ for fittings. $200 dollar range?

MarksFriggin · Dec 4th, 2010, 4:43 pm

I'd love to have something like this for my Hyper for the winter months here in NJ. Right now that thing looks almost as ugly as the charcoal canister. Maybe it's just me. I'm happy to see that someone is working on it though.

And El Tardo... here's what ThermoStasis says about their thermostats failing:

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If a ThermoStasis OTC fails, how will it fail?

ThermoStasis OTCs are designed to operate reliably for many years. Our OTCs are designed to be fail-safe, with no possibility of obstruction of the oil circuit. However, failure of the thermal motor will result in an operating condition where the internal oil bypass remains open, leading to operating oil temperatures that are higher than normal. Should this condition occur, please remove the OTC from service and return it to ThermoStasis for repair.

FAQs : ThermoStasis – Oil Temperature Controls
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el tardo · Dec 5th, 2010, 1:09 am

sorry if i wasnt to clear. why add a part thats not needed??? oil cooled bikes dont need this.

and as any part,its made by man and can fail,so your just adding risk.sure they say it will stay in open loop if broken but woking at my friends parents muffler/radaitor shop during high school 20yrs ago(which they still own) tells me different.i have seen many a t-stats not open and over heat cars cause people are to dumb to watch a temp gauge!!lol

so sorry for knocking your cool idea,but i see no need at all for it.
oil/air cooled bikes have been around for quite a long time and never needed anything like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

I suppose that i better go out and remove all the thermostats in my water cooled bikes and cars! You just saved me a ton of money on engine repairs!

It's my choice to do this so if any damage occurs, I'll deal with it.

MarksFriggin · Dec 5th, 2010, 10:07 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by el tardo

oil/air cooled bikes have been around for quite a long time and never needed anything like this.

So I guess all of the BMWs and Harleys with oil thermostats are imaginary?

If you ride in a cold climate and the bike never reaches a decent operating temperature then the moisture in the oil doesn't evaporate. I've been on cold rides where the oil temp didn't get over 165 degrees. That's not warm enough. There is a need for a thermostat... for some of us.

dragoontwo · Dec 5th, 2010, 10:39 am

el tardo, marksfriggin hit right on why I want one. Not to mention whan you ride in the rain even in the summer the bike has a hard time getting over 130-140. This isn't for everyone and I'm not trying to say it is.

Marks, in terms of looks do you have any idea hom you would like to see it designed or mounted? I like how it is now, but it would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

It will also fit with the charcoal canister on for those who wish not to remove theirs.