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Old Jan 8th, 2009, 11:45 pm   #1 (permalink)
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UM222 Single Injector / Termignoni installation Ducati 996

This is to hopefully help others that have had trouble in finding answers to at least this combination of performance upgrades on a 996 or? This pertains to a 2000 - 996. Long frustrating story but will try to keep it short. Yeah right!!!

In stock condition it had the normal off idle bogging (overly rich) condition but never noticed the 3500rpm hesitation noted by others. Installing the Termignoni’s did help the bogging problem but the bike just didn’t run to its potential so the Ultimap UM222 was the next step. Finding one was a story in itself, but fast forward. Not being familiar with this bike I decided it was best to take it to the dealer and let them install it and dial it in just be done with it. Well.. Lots of $$$$$$$ later, it wasn’t right and now had what I determined was a lean miss condition between 4000 - 5000 rpm, also looking inside the left muffler it was white like extreme heat had been cooking the soot off - and it was -- too hot and time to stop riding it before damage occurred.

Living over 250 miles from the dealer became an issue, numerous calls were not helpful as answers were non existent from them even with educated input to the problem. Searching the web was my last resort so between many emails, blogs, etc. there were lots of opinions, facts, misinformation and so on. Bottom line: It was time cut my losses, dust off the tools and fix it myself. My only reservation was if the dealer had changed the mapping on the chip, because if they had, I was stuck as finding this software/equip was impossible. I lucked out.

The miss was in fact a lean miss. Checking the CO to start found the Ft Cyl was set at about 1% to 1.5% CO, Rear 1.5% to 1.9% CO and the throttle bodies were out of sync. by one line on the mercury stick. The front By-Pass screw was out just shy of 1 turn and the rear was about 1.75 turns out. Also the trimmer in the computer was neutral (center position (2.5v).

Starting from scratch, following the manual step by step, TPS, Bypass screws seated, Fired up, set Balance and this is where I failed the first time. I followed the manual attempting to bring the idle up to 1100 rpm with the By-Pass screws. NOT gonna happen. I had them turned out to where they no longer had any effect still not arriving at the desired 1100 rpm, which also affected the mixture/balance. I “cheated” using the TB stop screw to achieve the 1100rpm. At least I thought I was cheating thinking I was going to screw up the TBP voltage, throw off the fuel mapping, etc. Not the case (I found out later) finding this info in a paper written that I would love to give credit to but can’t find it right now but stated using the Stop screw was the correct method as the By-Pass screws were only to be used to adjust mixture conditions between the cylinders and should only be out no more then roughly ½ a turn. Before wrapping thing up, Ft cyl was 1.6% CO, Rear 1.5% CO, trimmer 1/8 turn rich. Test ride showed no improvement.

Second attempt: Knowing the TPS was set, seated the By-Pass screws, brought idle to 1100rpm. This brought the Ft cyl to 3.5%CO. The rear I was having trouble with (high 4-5CO% but even more so the HC (hydrocarbons) were telling me I had a miss @ 7-9PPM but bringing the CO% lower also lowered the HC, to a point, if a miss HC will usually go the other way) but finally got it to 3.2% CO idle @ 180 degree F plus. It was a chasing game. By-Pass screws will change the balance and so on. Final setting: Ft Cyl 2.5% CO, Rear 3% CO. Rear By-Pass screw out ½ turn, Ft seated. This “TRANSFORMED” the bike. OMG. It sounds different, and runs very strong, like never before. Wheelies in second gear with little to no prompting.

The trouble I was having with the rear cylinder mixture I think might be a partially plugged injector the way it was acting, because it would keep radically changing on me. Spraying good then dribbling, then spraying and so on. Using plenty of injector cleaner now if this is the case.

What really amazed me was how much the Throttle Bodies and By-Pass screws affect the mixture and running. The trim screw was returned to the middle setting (2.5 Volts) as received from the dealer. The Throttle Bodies were the key and the dealer (as far as I’m aware) NEVER touched the balance, only the TPS. The balance was out along with the mixture and by-pass screws causing the lean miss. I realize for emissions the manual calls out 1% CO, but for performance they also call out 3-4% CO and engine damage can/will be caused running too lean. Grant you there are other things like Ignition, Burnt Valves and so on that can cause a miss, and I’m not implying the miss you may have is a lean condition.

One more thing: I noticed the left muffler always ran hotter. Everyone I encountered says the same with everyone’s opinion (even the dealers) seeming to be the rear cylinder runs hotter. When I was trying to determine the miss I was having thinking the rear cylinder was running lean looking inside the left muffler and feeling the difference in heat after a ride between the 2 mufflers, so I too fell into this opinion, however it never made total sense to me because of the fact it is a water cooled engine, and the pipes are most likely of equal length. During warm-up, the left muffler exhaust gasses are ALWAYS hot and the right cold with NO air moving over the front cylinder, and I don‘t believe the front cylinder being surrounded by heat exchangers gives it much advantage to cooling. Checking the pipe temp out of both heads revealed about equal temps. Where the change came was “after” the pre-mufflers, the left pipe becomes hotter. So paying close attention to this I came to the conclusion the blending of the gasses is not equal where they blend together and balance the pulses at the base of the pre-mufflers. So I think the majority of exhaust gasses travel through the left muffler thus becoming hotter then the right. Check it out for yourself.

So, in conclusion: All this hassle was because the dealer failed to do the basics: set the Throttle Body Bal and By-Pass screws accordingly. I know where I’ll never go again.

Hope this long drawn out story will help others. Since purchasing this bike it has been nothing but problems. Some minor in nature (but finding info was like pulling teeth). The first being previous owner caused. I also posted the trouble and fix for porosity in the rear cylinder head inside the spark plug bore I had, something that Ducati of NA wouldn’t acknowledge ever having issues with. Guy at MBP in Canada (valve retaining system) called me as he had seen this and gave me the fix. Thank you Guy, you’re one in a million.

Mind you, this bike was stated to have only 229 miles on it. All indications were this was true. It now has 2300 miles on it. NOW it’s running so strong it’s hard to imigine selling it, something I came soooo close to doing may times.

I’m finally smiling!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks to all that gave their input during all this, at this site and others.

Happy New Year!!!!

Oil Filling up in Spark Plug Bore - Rear Cylinder
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Old Jan 9th, 2009, 8:22 am   #2 (permalink)
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Funny thing is I'm going through the same similar problems. Only thing is I'm only at paragraph one, awaiting my Utimap chip. Hopefully I'll get it by next week and start the troubleshooting.
I had also noticed about the exhaust temps on the left muffler. I told a buddy that my left leg was getting hotter even though the exhaust runs from the right. I thought this to be odd.
So how did you get all the tools; ie: the carb sticks, and gastester? I'm hoping that the hobby shop on base may have them. If not I'll be buying them soon.
A month ago I wouldn't have had a clue as to what you were talking about. But since I've been researching this recently, it made sense. Thanks for the detailed write-up. I'll be reading it several times to make sure I don't miss the little things. Mind if I contact you for more details?
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Old Jan 9th, 2009, 10:01 am   #3 (permalink)
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I’ve been a professional mechanic starting in 1977. I haven’t been at it for a good 7 years now getting burned out with it, so through the years I’ve managed to accumulate plenty of tools. What I’ve run into more often than not is: Always dealing with less then helpful people with their hand out, pointing fingers etc. instead of just dealing with the problems and moving forward, So when I immediately starting having problems with this bike, it was shades of my last full blown adventure that broke my back with the hobby. It really is nice to have sites like this as a lot of good info is passed along and I am thankful to those that share their experiences with real/true information.

The miss was the last hurdle to overcome (so far anyway) with the bike but gave up looking for help but did find lots of good info on the net but took a long time to do and weed through. My bank account isn’t bottomless so it was time to either sell it or just learn it and understand because it’s not magic, but it can be a challenge.

I tried to keep the details as short as possible, but there are many and I probably missed a few. I noticed a typo too, It says -2.5v) and should read (2.5v) and if you want to contact me no problem, I’ll try to help you out if I can.

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Yeah my account is limited as well, so I understand that most of my maintenance will have to be done by me. I haven't been a mechanic since '77 but close, since '92. Thanks for the info.
One question for you, what is that item between your tail lights and exhaust on your avatar?
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Old Jan 9th, 2009, 11:28 am   #5 (permalink)
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It’s a Titanium Plaque I made to get rid of the ugly reflector without cutting the tabs off of the cover plate. I think its original and compliment the mufflers but of course that’s only “MY” opinion. I don’t like modifying things that can’t be put back to original if possible. Will usually fabricate a completely new part and retain the original… just in case! Plaque: Titanium Sheet metal with added Engine Turning, Engraved - DUCATI 996, Titanium Rivet Studs for mounting using original nuts.

Seems there’s no short answers from me…haha!!
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Old Jan 9th, 2009, 9:48 pm   #6 (permalink)
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what tps voltage setting did you use for idle? it's unusual for one to not idle with the air bleeds all the way in when set right.
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Old Jan 10th, 2009, 12:15 am   #7 (permalink)
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Initially as per the manual, it calls out 150mV with the butterflys completely closed, then after locking the TPS into position (I understand the extra effort to get it right at 150mV without the Plus or Minus of 15mV is optimum), turn the stop screw until it reaches 300mV Plus or Minus 15mV.

I might have been lucky to get it running set at 300mV as this is the only one I have done with the understanding every bike will most likely be a little different. Lower compression due to higher mileage, poor sealing valves, etc. It was idling low (about 850 rpm) but enough to warm up and continue tuning. Turning the bypass screws out got me to around 1000 rpm and no more.

I rechecked the voltage the second round and found it to be about 400mV. I didn’t check it after my final adjustments (as it is adjusted now) but I would bet it’s around 450mV to 475mV, but that’s only a guess. I want to say roughly ½ turn or more past the 300mV setting. Might be a little less.

I also misstated the CO the manual calls out (read it again) and its for full load. They say 4 and 6% CO. That to me is extremely rich. Maybe under full load (but wow, that is rich) but I’m only able to set the idle. 4-6% at idle is too rich. I’m used to non catalytic settings at around 2.5% to 3%CO for a good idle.
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996 specified setting is 423mv (2.6 degrees) and idle mixture of 4 to 5% CO is right.
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I think what matters MOST is that the TPS is set correctly to 150mV with the butterflies completely shut. After that it will allow the sensor to send the proper voltage to the computer no matter where the stop screw is set after initial settings are completed and TPS locked into position. Opening the butterflies to 423mV (my manual says 350mV) is only to allow the bike to start and idle before continuing on with bal and tuning. At least that’s the way I interpret it and really, it does make sense (to me), because ANY change in the By-Pass screw settings will change the balance and mixture and idle speed, so it does become a chasing game. Change the throttle rod length setting to offset the By-Pass screw setting that changes the CO% and so on. But to get it to the proper idle setting, I doubt the voltage will end up exactly at any one particular voltage and should be considered a reference setting to get started with. At least that’s my take on it and what I have found other tuners to be saying.

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7 - What is the correct voltage setting for the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) and how do you take this reading?
The only way to check is with the throttles completely shut (with the idle stop screws backed right out) and you want 150mV +/- 2mV. That is 0.148 volts to 0.152 volts. The reading is taken from ground to the middle pin on the throttle sensor connector, or across pins 16 and 30 on the ECU. This is very difficult, the factory spec is +/- 5mv but we think the results are better if this is within 2 mV. As you tighten the lock screws the sensor moves so you must progressively tighten and re-adjust until it's right. When it is within 2 mV (you snap the throttle open and shut a few times and re-check) you can reset your idle stop screws to get 1200 rpm idle. For more info see Question 11 below.


Is your idle CO set at 4-5%? How does it idle? I’d bet no mosquitoes in the vicinity..haha!! Seems to me it would load up very quickly. If it runs too rich you loose power and also take a chance of washing out the rings (raw "unburned" gas flushing the lubricating oil from the rings), but of course if you run too lean you also loose power and cause damage. Better to side on the rich side for sure. Set from the factory and for emissions they are (from the information I have) supposedly set at 1%CO idle. But I would bet that changes off idle with 2 injectors and so on. Can’t say I really know.

Again, this is my first experience with these bikes and I don’t claim to be guru of them. I do have a heavy background in tuning/mechanics, but limited in fuel injection, mapping type tuning so I’m learning too.
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this is the article i've written about this - http://www.bikeboy.org/ducati4vthrottleb.html

4 to 5% co works very well, which is why the manual says that. all fim / ultimap eproms are developed on the euro spec bikes we get too, not usa models. on many of the bikes 1% makes them idle very poorly and dirty, especially 2v and older desmoquattros. once you get over 2% or so they start to clean up, but usually a strada cam bike will idle at 5% co with under 500ppm hydrocarbons and 1.5% o2. an older sp cam bike will be around 2,000ppm, but stil fairly low o2. the shower injector testa motors will idle quite cleanly down to 1% co, amazing for how the fuel is delivered. so it depends on the model to some extent.

somewhat oddly, some of the cleanest bikes i've seen have been injected guzzi - you see them under 100ppm hc and 0.5% o2 at 5% co.
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