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Oct 15th, 2011, 4:30 pm
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2001 996R
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Ducati's Next Fix For the GP11
Re-hire Casey Stoner.
These guys have changed so much they are completely lost.
What a disaster for Ducati that they have tried to provide these "experts" with whatever they have have asked for.
It is time for the engineers at the factory to take over again and for Ducati to hire a rider that will push the bike to it's limit.
Cheers,
Harry.
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Oct 15th, 2011, 4:56 pm
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They have tried everything under the sun and all has gone south for them. IF and I say IF Rossi has another season like this one than I am certain he leaves Ducati for good. Maybe he retires and goes auto racing. I know that is something he has talked about in the past.
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Oct 15th, 2011, 4:58 pm
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I agree with ya that Stoner would be faster than Rossi on the current bike... but i see this as being the engineers fault from the start... Casey complained for years... nothing changed...
Rossi and Burgess asked for a new frame last November.... and 11 months later they start on it?.... Burgess is not at fault here... no way... no how...
Burgess is getting the same treatment that Stoner got in the past...
Ducati builds and designs the bike...
it's up to the tuner and rider to sort it out on Race weekend...
If it was up to Burgess and Rossi?... that bike would have been changed over winter LAST year... with a frame like the Japanese bikes... no doubt...
I think Ducati is too stubborn with their engineering... and probably worried about ditching their stupid airbox thingy 'cause they have the 1199 coming out...
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Oct 15th, 2011, 6:16 pm
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Location: Katonah, NY, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freighttriain
I agree with ya that Stoner would be faster than Rossi on the current bike... but i see this as being the engineers fault from the start... Casey complained for years... nothing changed...
Rossi and Burgess asked for a new frame last November.... and 11 months later they start on it?.... Burgess is not at fault here... no way... no how...
Burgess is getting the same treatment that Stoner got in the past...
Ducati builds and designs the bike...
it's up to the tuner and rider to sort it out on Race weekend...
If it was up to Burgess and Rossi?... that bike would have been changed over winter LAST year... with a frame like the Japanese bikes... no doubt...
I think Ducati is too stubborn with their engineering... and probably worried about ditching their stupid airbox thingy 'cause they have the 1199 coming out...
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I completely agree with you.
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Oct 15th, 2011, 6:33 pm
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What's the point of having a bike only one guy can ride??? Plus no way in hell Stoner will go back to Ducati.
Ducati needs to build a whole new bike.
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Oct 16th, 2011, 1:16 am
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2001 996R
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 269
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It's all Rossi's fault
JB was interviewed at PI today, he is blaming Rossi now "we are not getting the feedback we require from our rider".......
Steve Parrish interpreted this as "these guys are completely lost and Rossi is too rich and old to push as hard as needed"....
Cheers,
Harry.
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Oct 16th, 2011, 1:20 am
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2001 996R
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freighttriain
Rossi and Burgess asked for a new frame last November.... and 11 months later they start on it?.... Burgess is not at fault here... no way... no how...
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Hi Freighttrain,
That is not true, JB was was all over the press in pre-season testing saying that there was nothing wrong with the bike and that it was only an issue with Stoner's setup.
Cheers,
Harry.
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Oct 16th, 2011, 1:24 am
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Look what happend today when Rossi pushed his Ducati a little too hard passing Bautista. That Ducati reacted in Italain and it said " I no funkzzionee".  Mama mia that team is screwed.
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Oct 16th, 2011, 4:59 am
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2001 996R
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mduc
Look what happend today when Rossi pushed his Ducati a little too hard passing Bautista. That Ducati reacted in Italain and it said " I no funkzzionee".  Mama mia that team is screwed.
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The bike can't do much when you try a kamikaze pass and grab way too much front brake when leaned over.
Cheers,
Harry.
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